[NL20-NL50] nl25sh 1010 set on flop 3bet pot

    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Everest Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1848726
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      CO: $13.70 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 22, 3B: 10, AF: 1.7, Hands: 102
      Hero (BTN): $24.60 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 2.0, Hands: 114019
      SB: $93.25 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 1044
      BB: $29.40 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 3.0, Hands: 1734
      UTG: $63.77 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 22, 3B: 7, AF: 3.7, Hands: 2337

      Pre Flop: ($0.40) Hero is BTN with T :spade: T :club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB raises to $2.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.55

      Flop: ($4.55) T :heart: J :club: K :diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.80, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $22.45, SB raises to $71.90

      Turn: ($49.45) 8 :spade: (2 players)

      River: ($49.45) A :club: (2 players)

      Opponent has 51 W$SD.Should i fold my set there ? Maybe put him with his move on JJ or KK hand or AQ ? Looked strong but maybe he would play AK or AA like this.

      Thanks !

      Opponent : A :heart: Q :club:
  • 10 replies
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      I fear for the worst here. Hard to fold but I think it is the best option
    • darko163
      darko163
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      No way I fold this. He could easily have AK,KJ or Kt. The times he has AQ you still have outs.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      That check/raise is really polarizing to me... Really doesn't look like KT/AK.
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      With this 3bet maybe opponent would play QQ like this.And something with the odds.Anyone knows what is the possibility to flop the nuts straight ?

      Sometimes i exclude some hands because of the low possibility to have them on flop.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Hello EnterG,

      Doubt that the guy is going to end up here with a lot worse. :( Unfortunately whilst even having the bottom set I would be rather folding vs his line. I just don't see him doing that with AK nor QQ.

      Best Regards.
    • EnterG
      EnterG
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      Fold because i have bottom set ? We are talking against a 8% 3bet pf guy.I think he would play AA the same way.

      What if i slowplayed kings pf in this example ?

      Thanks !
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by EnterG
      Fold because i have bottom set ? We are talking against a 8% 3bet pf guy.I think he would play AA the same way.

      What if i slowplayed kings pf in this example ?

      Thanks !
      Why would he slowplay AA in that kind of spot? He really has to be very bad for that cause it hardly hits your 3bet-calling range. Whatever you have you will have hardly AA crushed. Even with AA we might Bet/Fold it or even Check/Call and reevaluate the further actions.

      What do you mean by if you slowplay kings?
    • EnterG
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      I mean if i had kings in this example and decided to call pf rather than 4bet.
      Whould i should call or raise/shove ?

      Thanks !
    • EnterG
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      Nevermind if i had kings there i just loose against a made hand.But it s a little difficult to fold a set in such a case.IMO
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by EnterG
      I mean if i had kings in this example and decided to call pf rather than 4bet.
      Whould i should call or raise/shove ?

      Thanks !
      If we had KK we of course don't fold our top-set. :(