How to slowplay lesson 101

    • Phenomenomzor
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      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) On Game
      SB ($29.57)
      BB ($17.14)
      UTG ($18.84)
      UTG+1 ($19.70)
      Hero ($23.52)
      BTN ($26.34)

      Dealt to Hero 6:diamond: 6:heart:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BB calls $0.40

      FLOP ($1.30) 9:heart: 6:club: 6:spade:

      BB checks, Hero checks

      TURN ($1.30) 9:heart: 6:club: 6:spade: 7:heart:

      BB checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($1.30) 9:heart: 6:club: 6:spade: 7:heart: 8:diamond:

      BB bets $1.30, Hero raises to $22.92 (AI), BB calls $15.24 (AI)

      Hero shows 6:diamond: 6:heart:

      Hero wins $32.67


      EDIT: sorry wrong board/thread :(
  • 9 replies
    • Tomaloc
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      you should be protecting against backdoor straight flushes (yeah i've seen that happen)
      so minbet flop and turn

      in all seriousness don't really like it as played, bet even if it's some ridiculous amount like 20% pot, he should call all his range that has ANY potential to improve.
    • DeetM
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      How often is the board going to run out in such a way that villain will have enough of a range that can call that big a bet after checking back flop and turn but at the same time wouldn't call bets on flop and turn? If it was a 996 flop and you had 99 I'd like it more.
    • Tomaloc
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      well possible that villain had 77-99 here. :f_biggrin:
      since it's a fish maybe JT, maaaaaaaaaybe Tx

      i think it's fine to shove the riverz once he pots it, he's usually strong there.
    • DeetM
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      I'm not saying the river shove is bad, I mean that I'm pretty sure OP's EV vs villain's range would be higher if he just bet flop, turn and river.
    • Tomaloc
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      agreed. :f_biggrin:
    • Phenomenomzor
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      Originally posted by DeetM
      How often is the board going to run out in such a way that villain will have enough of a range that can call that big a bet after checking back flop and turn but at the same time wouldn't call bets on flop and turn? If it was a 996 flop and you had 99 I'd like it more.

      Frankly, I dont like c-betting on this flop. He was fit or fold type guy and would fold nearly always on this flop and I'd rather give him chance to hit something on turn. I also rarely hit these type of boards with my range and would love to play weak so he could stab on turn.

      River was wp imo, if he calls a x2.5-x3.5 raise he will call a shove too.

      Anyway, I should had bet on turn. It brings out some really nice draws out there. But theres a reason I didnt post this hand on hand evaluation forums, title was sarcastic and was telling "how not to play this hand".
    • karbonade123
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      I prefer bet flop, check turn and rais river.
    • Tomaloc
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      i like to try to figure out villain folding threshhold with my nutted hands.
      bet 1/3, 1/4. if he folds or talks himself into folding just do it next time with your bluffs. :f_biggrin:

      that's exploitative/exploitable play but pretty sure it's good for NL25-
    • BradNitt
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      Originally posted by Phenomenomzor


      BB bets $1.30, Hero raises to $22.92 (AI), BB calls $15.24 (AI)