[NL2-NL10] Stupid river

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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      BB: $5 (100 bb) 17/10/1.9/6.7/39/259
      CO: $2.63 (52.6 bb)
      BTN: $4.83 (96.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $6.97 (139.4 bb) 25/21/5.4/3.8/31/225

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.15

      Flop: ($0.40) T 4 J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

      Turn: ($0.90) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

      River: ($2.10) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.40, BB raises to $3.95 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Stupid river completed so many draws. So Bet/fold or check/call or bet/call?
  • 3 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I would prefer bet/call. Blind vs blind he may easily shove worse hands and turn some hands into bluffs. I would bet/call that spot 1.3$

      best regards,
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      But what worse hands do you think he'd call down till river with and shove?

      AQ got there, Q9 got there. He could have called down with flush draws.

      I can't imagine a Kx hand shoving. If something like JT had to shove he'd have done it a long time ago. The only possibility I can think of is perhaps JK or TK. I block JK and a total of only 12 two pair combos against 32 straight combos.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by maheepsangari
      But what worse hands do you think he'd call down till river with and shove?

      AQ got there, Q9 got there. He could have called down with flush draws.

      I can't imagine a Kx hand shoving. If something like JT had to shove he'd have done it a long time ago. The only possibility I can think of is perhaps JK or TK. I block JK and a total of only 12 two pair combos against 32 straight combos.
      if player would never end up there worse than straight then b/f is ofcourse correct play, but you have to consider:
      - it is nl 5, opponent may not be good enough to not shove worse hands for value- in his mind 44 or KT might easily nuts that spot
      - if he has smt like 98 then only option him to win pot would be shove- true most players would not bluffshove, but since Ks is kind of scary card and you would often barrel that it is quite good board where to shove
      - in the end you need to put in 26bb- to me it is quite good price to win 200bb with quite good hand- you would not likely b/f if river was Kh, so I think backdoor flushdraws are not so likely that you should fold that strong hand.

      But again if you think he would never show up with worse then b/f is very reasonable line to take

      best regards,