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[NL20-NL50] kk

    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $25.75 (103 bb)
      SB: $27.40 (109.6 bb)
      BB: $52.02 (208.1 bb)
      UTG+1: $30.85 (123.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $25.88 (103.5 bb)
      MP1: $23.06 (92.2 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $28.53 (114.1 bb)
      MP3: $9.65 (38.6 bb)
      CO: $25 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K K
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 5 folds

      Flop: ($1.85) 2 Q J (2 players)
      UTG+2 bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

      Turn: ($4.05) 3 (2 players)
      UTG+2 bets $2.40, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG+2 folds

      $8.85 pot ($0.40 rake)
      Final Board: 2 Q J 3
      UTG+2 mucked and lost (-$4.25 net)
      Hero mucked K K and won $8.45 ($4.20 net)

      I thought on the preflop,the hands which are weaker than KK wouldnt go all in.and
      their stats were
      MP3 167hand 3b:5%
      SB 540hand 3b:10%
      so I called.

      if I get triple barrel ,I thought it would be so difficult in most I small raised on the turn so draw would pay and tried to go to free show down.
  • 3 replies
    • letmewinplz8
      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 439
      Unless he has like 80% fold to 3bet or you have a ridiculous nitty image 3bet preflop.

      As played I would just call down I think unless an A or Q hits on the river. Really hate the raise tbh.
    • Hackett77
      Joined: 02.02.2009 Posts: 372
      definately 3bet preflop alot of the time here as your equity goes down considerable with KK in a 3way pot as opposed to HU and flatting allows the blinds to come along.

      Your also in a bad position to flat as you have players left to act.

      That said if villian folds also to 3bets then flatting here can be good sometimes but at NL25 3betting will usually yield much better results.

      Flat more if blinds/BU are fish or 3bet happy.

      What is your plan if he shoves over your turn raise?

      Raising here mostly just folds out any worse hands and isolates yourself against the top of villians range which you wont be in all that good shape against.

      Also you havent bought yourself a free showdown as your raise is roughly the same amount as the turn + river bet would of been but you probably just folded out KQ, maybe AQ, Jx and air that might of barrelled river or check called the river if the flushes brick.

      Post more stats on villians, we have no idea of player types given the information you have provided.

      Start with

      VPIP/PFR to get a general idea of player type
      PFR from respective position - to start building a range
      Post flop tendancies - Cbet flop/turn etc

      Also post the stats of the players left to act behind you when you make a play like this preflop.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello daisuke3823,

      Preflop: Standard 3bet instead of calling, there ain't even super-maniacs behind you. You are just rather giving others good option to call vs you and play with some crappy hands.

      As played
      Postflop: Raising the turn is just turning your hand into bluff, you ain't going to get called from a lot worse hands. Which means we should be just calling and keeping his range wide.

      Best Regards.