[NL2-NL10] bb A5c

    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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      CO: $1.04 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 4,5, Hands: 35
      BTN: $2.48 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 35
      SB: $1.26 - VPIP: 71, PFR: 38, 3B: 0, AF: 1,7, Hands: 34
      Hero (BB): $2.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,4, Hands: 4138
      UTG: $1.60 - VPIP: 83, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 35
      MP: $0.77 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 136

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A :club: 5 :club:
      4 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.06, SB calls $0.04

      Flop: ($0.12) 3 :club: 7 :spade: K :diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, SB calls $0.08

      Turn: ($0.28) K :club: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

      River: ($0.48) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.26, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $0.48
      SB shows 4 :club: J :diamond:
      (Rake: $0.02)
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Imimba1,

      You can't Call the turn cause you don't have the implied odds there, might even have reversed odds therefore rather fold it there.

      Best Regards.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Imimba1,

      You can't Call the turn cause you don't have the implied odds there, might even have reversed odds therefore rather fold it there.

      Best Regards.
      We have 9 outs, so we barely even need implied odds. (We get 21% odds, and 19% that we get flush) We can get value on the river if we hit, we have position and only got FD on the turn.

      We MIGHT have reverse implied odds, but with 71% vpip, the full house is a really tiny segment of his range. He can easily have a Kx, or 7x hand, or a random pp.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Imimba1,

      You can't Call the turn cause you don't have the implied odds there, might even have reversed odds therefore rather fold it there.

      Best Regards.
      We have 9 outs, so we barely even need implied odds. (We get 21% odds, and 19% that we get flush) We can get value on the river if we hit, we have position and only got FD on the turn.

      We MIGHT have reverse implied odds, but with 71% vpip, the full house is a really tiny segment of his range. He can easily have a Kx, or 7x hand, or a random pp.
      Well, even if he plays loose in those spots you still wont have the implied odds cause of course you can never know what kind of is even out for you. For example he could easily have Kx hand which at the same time is a X card which gives him FH.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Imimba1,

      You can't Call the turn cause you don't have the implied odds there, might even have reversed odds therefore rather fold it there.

      Best Regards.
      We have 9 outs, so we barely even need implied odds. (We get 21% odds, and 19% that we get flush) We can get value on the river if we hit, we have position and only got FD on the turn.

      We MIGHT have reverse implied odds, but with 71% vpip, the full house is a really tiny segment of his range. He can easily have a Kx, or 7x hand, or a random pp.
      Well, even if he plays loose in those spots you still wont have the implied odds cause of course you can never know what kind of is even out for you. For example he could easily have Kx hand which at the same time is a X card which gives him FH.
      You assume, that he will not even call a 10% pot bet when we hit and he "only" has trips or something worse. If that is the case, then of course we really have 0 implied odds.

      Sorry Veriz, but I really can't let this hand go. A person with 71% vpip surely pays us if we hit. Even if he has Kx, how many times will he have a FH on the river, 10% at most? Even if we hit and only call his river bet/bet a little on the river, it should still be profitable.

      OR this is just a huge leak I have, going too far with draws? 21% odds, extremely hard to fold the nut flushdraw. ?(
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Imimba1,

      You can't Call the turn cause you don't have the implied odds there, might even have reversed odds therefore rather fold it there.

      Best Regards.
      We have 9 outs, so we barely even need implied odds. (We get 21% odds, and 19% that we get flush) We can get value on the river if we hit, we have position and only got FD on the turn.

      We MIGHT have reverse implied odds, but with 71% vpip, the full house is a really tiny segment of his range. He can easily have a Kx, or 7x hand, or a random pp.
      Well, even if he plays loose in those spots you still wont have the implied odds cause of course you can never know what kind of is even out for you. For example he could easily have Kx hand which at the same time is a X card which gives him FH.
      You assume, that he will not even call a 10% pot bet when we hit and he "only" has trips or something worse. If that is the case, then of course we really have 0 implied odds.

      Sorry Veriz, but I really can't let this hand go. A person with 71% vpip surely pays us if we hit. Even if he has Kx, how many times will he have a FH on the river, 10% at most? Even if we hit and only call his river bet/bet a little on the river, it should still be profitable.

      OR this is just a huge leak I have, going too far with draws? 21% odds, extremely hard to fold the nut flushdraw. ?(
      The problem comes from when you start to overplay your nutFD on the river, as for example raise and then get re-raised and obviously you Call, and wola the guy has FH. :D To avoid those kind of situations it's more reasonable to fold and get more conservative with your play. If you get better you can also start to play looser.