knowing when NUT isn't the nut FHvs4K

    • racenutalways
      racenutalways
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 172
      It's a new record, FH lost to flopped 4 K How'd you plaay it?
      Reviewing the hands, I felt I was beat umm not once....

      888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG: $32.14
      MP: $18.01
      CO: $34.34
      BTN: $13.94
      SB: $27.29
      Hero (BB): $20.58

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has A:spade: A:heart:

      UTG calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, UTG calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6:heart: Q:club: 6:club:
      Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

      Turn: ($3.00, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      Hero bets $1.50, UTG raises to $3.60, Hero calls $2.10
      Everything in my being told me to fold....OOPS! and it cost me. Note: 25 hands on Opp.
      Forgot golden rule, "assume fit or fold until they prove otherwise".

      River: ($10.20, 2 players) A:diamond:
      Hero bets $10.20, UTG raises to $27.09, Hero calls $5.33

      UTG shows 6:diamond: 6:spade: (Four of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 20%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
      Hero shows A:spade: A:heart: (Full House, Aces full of Sixes) (Pre 80%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
      UTG wins $39.20

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      888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: $18.82
      UTG: $20.92
      MP: $35.06
      Hero (CO): $43.55
      BTN: $20.20
      SB: $20.00

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, fold, SB calls $0.60, fold

      Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) 7:heart: 7:spade: 2:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB raises to $3.00, Hero calls $1.80
      zero hands on this one, but he multi tables, a raise here, wasnt afraid of a 7, 67? maybe, 77, 22, no, raise there? I'm thing 88-TT. OOPS and it cost me.....

      Turn: ($7.60, 2 players) A:heart:
      SB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

      River: ($15.60, 2 players) 6:spade:
      SB bets $12.30, Hero calls $12.30

      Hero shows A:club: A:diamond: (Full House, Aces full of Sevens) (Pre 81%, Flop 0%, Turn 2%)
      SB shows 7:diamond: 7:club: (Four of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 100%, Turn 98%)
      SB wins $38.19
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $15.70
      SB: $16.51
      Hero (BB): $10.00
      UTG: $10.46
      CO: $22.47

      SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9:diamond: 9:heart:

      UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.15, UTG calls $0.85

      Flop: ($2.35, 2 players) 7:heart: 7:diamond: 9:club:
      Hero checks, UTG checks

      Turn: ($2.35, 2 players) T:diamond:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $1.17, Hero calls $1.17
      DEJA-VU!!! zero hands on Opp, multi 4 tables, had this guy on TT, bad read. :f_biggrin:

      River: ($4.69, 2 players) K:diamond:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

      UTG shows 7:spade: 7:club: (Four of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      Hero mucks 9:diamond: 9:heart: (Full House, Nines full of Sevens) (Pre 81%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      UTG wins $9.21
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: $11.51
      BTN: $14.69
      SB: $11.76
      BB: $18.39
      Hero (UTG): $13.32

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:

      Hero raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 6:heart: 6:spade: J:spade:
      Hero bets $0.42, CO calls $0.42

      Turn: ($1.69, 2 players) 2:club:
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($1.69, 2 players) 7:diamond:
      Hero bets $1.26, CO raises to $10.74, Hero calls $9.48
      24 hands on OPP deja vu screaming in my ear, can't fold here!!

      CO shows 6:club: 6:diamond: (Four of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 18%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      Hero shows J:club: J:diamond: (Full House, Jacks full of Sixes) (Pre 82%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      CO wins $22.02
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      NUT not being nut, fold, 5 hands on Opp, J hit I thought and bloody called... DEJA-VU can kiss my,,,,,,

      888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $9.50
      SB: $11.03
      BB: $10.09
      Hero (UTG): $10.37
      MP: $9.65
      CO: $8.32

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4:diamond: 4:heart:

      Hero calls $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: ($0.40, 4 players) 5:club: 5:diamond: T:club:
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

      Turn: ($0.40, 4 players) 4:spade:
      SB bets $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20

      River: ($1.00, 3 players) J:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, CO raises to $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $10.07, CO calls $6.02

      Hero shows 4:diamond: 4:heart: (Full House, Fours full of Fives) (Pre 19%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
      CO shows 5:spade: 5:heart: (Four of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 81%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
      CO wins $16.19

      This next hand are the ez ones to read, 1500 hands on reg, Af 1 across all streets.

      888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (MP): $20.20
      CO: $24.86
      BTN: $39.52
      SB: $24.80
      BB: $20.00
      UTG: $9.09

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has Q:heart: A:heart:

      UTG calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, CO calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($3.20, 3 players) 3:heart: T:heart: 3:spade:
      Hero bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40, BTN calls $2.40

      Turn: ($10.40, 3 players) 5:heart:
      Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

      River: ($10.40, 3 players) 2:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $7.80, Hero calls $7.80, fold

      BTN shows 3:club: 3:diamond: (Four of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 50%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
      Hero mucks Q:heart: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 50%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
      BTN wins $24.70


      As it turns out, reviewing those hands, my decision were impossible to calculate with the lack of evidence. Except for that ALL IN bet<99.999% ABSOLUTE NUT!!!

      To any of you regs reading this, raising 4K to maximize value, you can only get paid from a FH. Overpairs won't pay you, trips won't pay you.
      I reviewed all FH hands and found that most would be ez fold for me today.
      To you set miners still loving to crack AA, here's a tidbit, know you can stack your Opp 100%. Not all Opp stack off overpairs and haven't for a while now. A) you will win small pots most of the time. B) you will up vs bigger set. set miners stick out a mile. CCPF% 14+,
      C)if you're set mining nits, you're losing money.... STOP! D) calling 3bets with your small pairs is losing you MORE money, remember you shold have 20 times his raise to make profit. Even if you stack him you're still losing in the long run...

      Hope these hands helped others to proper assess and make better decision with big, unn HUGE hands in the future

      See ya at the felts!!!
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