# RAZZ hand hierachy

• Bronze
Joined: 08.11.2009
Hi

I was in a hand in which my lowest was:
A 2 3 7 8 - hero
A 2 4 6 8 - villain

we both had these hands by fifth street

hero saw A 4 6
villain saw 2 8 7

we were all in on fifth

other cards were neglegible

why did the villain win?
are hands ordered from the highest cards first, he won due to the 6 vs 7.
If this is the case, explain to me why the probability of getting villains hand is significantly lower

thank you
• 6 replies
• Bronze
Joined: 22.11.2009
You have to read the hands l like numbers.

86421<87321

Don't understand the other question.

Sorry.
• Super Moderator
Super Moderator
Joined: 02.09.2010
The probability of each hand is the same, is it not?

If villain sees 872 he knows he has the near nuts at that point because he has 86 at the top, and no two cards you hold can beat him, since has has A2 at the bottom.
• Bronze
Joined: 29.08.2010
If this is the case, explain to me why the probability of getting villains hand is significantly lower

// english

I think I get his point...

Hmmm...in 5 card draw high, full house is better than flush cuz prob. of being dealt a full house is lower of being dealt a flush...easy? Easy...2233* is better than AA*** cuz it's harder to get 2 pair than one, easy? Easy...

BUT

AAKQJ is better than AA432 while prob. of being dealt each hand is the same.
Why? Because... it's high card game...can someone find a better answer?

IN Razz you get dealt 3 cards, you have the same chances of being dealt AKQ and A23 while first is a crap and second is a monster. Why? Because... it's low card game...can someone find a better answer?

I can blame 5cd for the same:
say I have AA55x and my opponent (somehow) also have a AA55x
Now we both discard 1. I catch AA554 and he AA55Q. He win...

So I wonder why did he win?! The prob. of catching a 4 is the same like Q so why the hell did he win? Because...
• Bronze
Joined: 22.11.2009
Now I have lots of questions I don't understand. If this thread goes on long enough, I will end up understanding nothing at all and have to go back to playing chess.
• Bronze
Joined: 29.08.2010
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Now I have lots of questions I don't understand. If this thread goes on long enough, I will end up understanding nothing at all and have to go back to playing chess.
JBpatzer open raise e2-e4?

I think opp question can be change to:
"Why royal flush is worst than 23457 in low-games, while it's harder to get dealt those first?"

at least I understand it like that...
• Bronze
Joined: 22.11.2009
Originally posted by Huricano
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Now I have lots of questions I don't understand. If this thread goes on long enough, I will end up understanding nothing at all and have to go back to playing chess.
JBpatzer open raise e2-e4?

I think opp question can be change to:
"Why royal flush is worst than 23457 in low-games, while it's harder to get dealt those first?"

at least I understand it like that...
Well, them's the rules!

You're equally likely to get dealt any one particular combination of cards as any other. A Royal Flush only seems special because of the human brain's infinite capacity to spot patterns. Oh look! They're in a row! They're the same colour! Oooo! That's pretty! Let's make that the best!

And yes.....e2-e4 > all. Bobby Fischer was right.