[NL2-NL10] NL10: AJ chB vs fish

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1871562
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      BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 3,4, Hands: 298
      SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 32
      BB: $6.89 - VPIP: 91, PFR: 21, 3B: 15, AF: 2,1, FoldTocBetFlop: 63(8), Hands: 34
      UTG: $6.90 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 12, 3B: 17, AF: 1,3, Hands: 17
      Hero (MP): $10.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 4,6, Hands: 57711
      CO: $9.85 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 21, 3B: 7, AF: 9,0, Hands: 34

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A :spade: J :diamond:
      UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, BB calls $0.40, 1 fold

      Flop: ($1.15) 9 :diamond: 8 :diamond: K :heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.15) 3 :heart: (2 players)
      BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

      River: ($1.75) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $0.60, Hero folds

      Villain's range is superwide but it still hits this board too often for a cBet even with our overcard + bckdoors.

      Not sure if calling turn is OK for the given odds though. Sometimes we're ahead even but won't get to a free showdown anyway + our pair might not be that good.
  • 9 replies
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      If he folds to cbet that often, then fire the barrel there! There's no need to just check-back and wait for him to make even better hits. C'mon, his VPIP is 91, he's something like a fish, who's likely to go Post-flop w nearly any 2.

      Punish him. Make a 1/2 pot bet there. If he doesn't fold, stop firing barrels on that board. Your hand is not likely to get better.

      With this line you choose, you're practically giving up and losing value there.

      And I liked your pre-flop ISO! :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Well, I don't get you. You ain't CBetting the flop but you though calling the turn? :P Rather CB the flop whilst you also have some backdoors + fold equity. You can't really Call the turn cause you can't hope that he checks behind nor you ain't even making better hands to fold by this.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      If villain was a 30–40 VPIP player and we didn't know anything about how often he folds to cBets in general, would you still recomend cBetting this flop, even with our backdoors?
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      Still cbet, he usually folds to 2nd barrel, at least.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Avatars91
      If villain was a 30–40 VPIP player and we didn't know anything about how often he folds to cBets in general, would you still recomend cBetting this flop, even with our backdoors?
      Well, if he is loose then you can easily CB it, we still have enough of backdoors + working overcards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      If we had a small pocket, i.e., 33 would cBetting be the best play on this board vs a 40VPIP guy? Equity wise we are doing just a little bit worse than AJ, but playability wise there is not much to hope for once we get called as we can't really improve on further streets as well as with AJ.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Avatars91
      If we had a small pocket, i.e., 33 would cBetting be the best play on this board vs a 40VPIP guy? Equity wise we are doing just a little bit worse than AJ, but playability wise there is not much to hope for once we get called as we can't really improve on further streets as well as with AJ.
      Showdown value hands I'd rather Check behind cause we are able to Check it through and be ahead nor we can't 2nd barrel it for value. Which means that if we CB then very often have to lay down to the river bet though the guy could easily take it down with missed FD. Whilst if we play it passively he could play it passively as well and we could easily Check it through.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Showdown value hands I'd rather Check behind


      What kind of hands does this category consist of? 22-77, 8x? 9x even?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Showdown value hands I'd rather Check behind


      What kind of hands does this category consist of? 22-77, 8x? 9x even?
      Whatever has showdown value there, doubt that you are making many hands to fold vs such a guy.