[NL2-NL10] bb QT JT9

    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      UTG: $2.50 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 10, 3B: 10, AF: 0,0, Hands: 42
      CO: $2.13 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0,3, Hands: 109
      BTN: $2.57 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 1,3, Hands: 31
      SB: $2.81 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 19, 3B: 2, AF: 2,3, Hands: 2658
      Hero (BB): $2.12 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 2,6, Hands: 6884

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q :heart: T :club:
      1 fold, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.06) 9 :heart: J :heart: T :diamond: (3 players)
      SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09
  • 7 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Imimba1,

      Vs such a min-bet seems to be fine. We still need to protect our hand. Nice hand!

      What's your plan if the guy 3bets you pot size?

      Best Regards.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      What's your plan if the guy 3bets you pot size?
      Against a decent player easy fold, no implied odds: all my outs make the straight obvious, and I have reverse implied odds against flushes.

      Against this fish, tough question. I'm not sure he goes broke with a set/2pair when I hit, so it's safer to fold imo.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      What's your plan if the guy 3bets you pot size?
      Against a decent player easy fold, no implied odds: all my outs make the straight obvious, and I have reverse implied odds against flushes.

      Against this fish, tough question. I'm not sure he goes broke with a set/2pair when I hit, so it's safer to fold imo.
      Doesn't really matter against which player you are here. :) Both are easy fold I'd say, you wont see worse hands, more often traps.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 39.318% 38.02% 01.30% 15057 513.00 { QhTc }
      Hand 1: 60.682% 59.39% 01.30% 23517 513.00 { 99, J9s+, T9s, 87s, J9o+, T9o, 87o } Basically 2 pair, 78, and 99. I'd expect him to raise with KQ, TT, JJ preflop.

      My equity is quite good against a 3bet, but the problem is, that we totally lack implied odds, right? Any Q or K would shut down the money flow (against a decent player!)

      Couldnt we call against loose-fish in position?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 39.318% 38.02% 01.30% 15057 513.00 { QhTc }
      Hand 1: 60.682% 59.39% 01.30% 23517 513.00 { 99, J9s+, T9s, 87s, J9o+, T9o, 87o } Basically 2 pair, 78, and 99. I'd expect him to raise with KQ, TT, JJ preflop.

      My equity is quite good against a 3bet, but the problem is, that we totally lack implied odds, right? Any Q or K would shut down the money flow (against a decent player!)

      Couldnt we call against loose-fish in position?
      You know yourself that you have weakness in freeplay pots, it should answer you the question. :P Freeplay pots hands are usually very strong and it will be 1card straight. ;) Few tips, now make your assumptions and post it here and I can say if it's correct. :P
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 39.318% 38.02% 01.30% 15057 513.00 { QhTc }
      Hand 1: 60.682% 59.39% 01.30% 23517 513.00 { 99, J9s+, T9s, 87s, J9o+, T9o, 87o } Basically 2 pair, 78, and 99. I'd expect him to raise with KQ, TT, JJ preflop.

      My equity is quite good against a 3bet, but the problem is, that we totally lack implied odds, right? Any Q or K would shut down the money flow (against a decent player!)

      Couldnt we call against loose-fish in position?
      You know yourself that you have weakness in freeplay pots, it should answer you the question. :P Freeplay pots hands are usually very strong and it will be 1card straight. ;) Few tips, now make your assumptions and post it here and I can say if it's correct. :P
      You are right Veriz, even though I have decent equity against him: if I hit, i won't get paid off. If I don't get hit, I will NEVER get a free card. So it's -EV to call, it's better to fold. :)

      BtW Veriz, over 10k hand sample size I managed to beat 1/2c for 10,54bb/100h, thanks to your help. I'm going to keep improving, and once I reach 125$, 2/5c is coming :f_biggrin:
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Wow, that's nice progress. :) I hope you keep going, though don't be sad if the bb/100 goes down cause it very likely will. When the sample gets bigger the winrate will also get into correct amount but so far you have been doing very good. :)