[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL 50 AA x/f on river 4 to a straight

    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      BTN: $83.68 (167.4 bb)
      SB: $51.77 (103.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
      MP: $14.55 (29.1 bb)
      CO: $58.96 (117.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
      MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, MP folds, CO calls $3.50

      Flop: ($9.75) T 6 J (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.50, CO calls $6.50

      Turn: ($22.75) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $12.50, CO calls $12.50

      River: ($47.75) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $35.46 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results:
      $47.75 pot ($2.38 rake)
      Final Board: T 6 J 9 Q
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$23.50 net)
      CO mucked and won $45.37 ($21.87 net)



      Turn was bet/fold river x/fold.

      Any reason to bet river ourselves?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello DeMarcohsp,

      Don't even see any reason to Bet the turn cause you ain't really going to get value from worse hands. A lot of 2pair combos have you beat/sets have you beat/straights have you beat, very capped range from you get value from.

      River bet would be turning our hand into bluff and you wont have there much fold equity vs his calling range.

      Best Regards.
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Are you x/folding turn?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by DeMarcohsp
      Are you x/folding turn?
      Yes, that's what I'd be planning to do cause I don't really see many hands what we have beat vs unknown.
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Ok. I am getting a better understanding of these spots atm so I see your logic.

      As we can't expect him to bet Tx and his Jxs combos will check back some of the time it starts making some sense.

      But still in these exact spot.

      We are beaten by JJ(3),TT(3), JTs(2),KQs(4) I don't put 66 and would rather discount JTs as well since he is going to raise some strong hands on the flop.
      So I'd make it 10 combos which beat us.

      We beat QQ,KK (12),AJs(3), KJs(3) = 18. KJs might fold to a second bet so that leaves us with 15 combos to get value from.

      This makes us with a decent value bet on the turn. \

      Against this I guess you would assume people 4bet KK/QQ and I should not expect these hands to be in his range? Which if it is true it does imply that we should be check/folding turn and you said.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Can't see an unknown opponent to have 100% of QQ/KK range here, very often gets it in and about AJ/KJ well, how can you even be sure that he plays those hands? As I understand he is unknown to you then you can't imagine him having full range of AJ/KJ range either which just wouldn't make sense. + We also block A which will narrow his range again.