[NL2-NL10] co ATs, turn-play

    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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      BB: $3.88 - VPIP: 8, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 39
      UTG: $2.70 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 45
      Hero (CO): $2.11 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2,5, Hands: 8325
      BTN: $5.44 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 2,3, Hands: 55
      SB: $1.77 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 1,3, Hands: 56

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with T :spade: A :spade:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.19) T :diamond: Q :spade: A :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, BTN calls $0.15

      Turn: ($0.49) J :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.31

      I think check/fold would be too weak. No worse hand is going to call, but still, I'd call a turn bet, so it's better if I bet myself I guess. I can't call a turn and river bet.


      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 25.970% 17.07% 08.90% 308 160.50 { AsTs }
      Hand 1: 74.030% 65.13% 08.90% 1175 160.50 { QQ+, TT, ATs+, QTs, ATo+, QTo }
      Only 22% of his range has a K, so this could even count as a very good bluff, right? I mean, I could easily have a K in my disposal from his point of view.
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Imimba1,

      He has a lot of Kx hands there in his range. :) And of course even a lot of stronger hands which have you beat. I'd instead just Check it and most likely even plan to give it up. You don't get value from a lot worse hands and nor I doubt that he bets with a lot worse hands either cause he just doesn't have many hands he would turn into bluff.

      Best Regards.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Imimba1,

      He has a lot of Kx hands there in his range. :) And of course even a lot of stronger hands which have you beat. I'd instead just Check it and most likely even plan to give it up. You don't get value from a lot worse hands and nor I doubt that he bets with a lot worse hands either cause he just doesn't have many hands he would turn into bluff.

      Best Regards.
      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 25.970% 17.07% 08.90% 308 160.50 { AsTs }
      Hand 1: 74.030% 65.13% 08.90% 1175 160.50 { QQ+, TT, ATs+, QTs, ATo+, QTo }
      Only 22% of his range has a K, so this could even count as a very good bluff, right? I mean, I could easily have a K in my disposal from his point of view, and is going to be very hard for him to continue without a K. I'd expect at least 50% fold equity here.

      If I check, it's check/fold of course. If I bet, it's bet/fold.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Mate, you don't have any Kx hands even in his range which you put into equilab. :P And though get very crappy equity with even that range. So yeah, that's not really the idea of it. The main idea of betting the turn is not gaining fold equity but rather trying to avoid him bluffing into us and doing it for free showdown.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by veriz
      Mate, you don't have any Kx hands even in his range which you put into equilab. :P And though get very crappy equity with even that range. So yeah, that's not really the idea of it. The main idea of betting the turn is not gaining fold equity but rather trying to avoid him bluffing into us and doing it for free showdown.
      Wouldnt he fold hands like 2 pairs, sets after 2ndbarrel on this flop?
      Only about 1/3 of his range has a K, if he can fold the other 2/3, then it should be ok to bluff here.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by veriz
      Mate, you don't have any Kx hands even in his range which you put into equilab. :P And though get very crappy equity with even that range. So yeah, that's not really the idea of it. The main idea of betting the turn is not gaining fold equity but rather trying to avoid him bluffing into us and doing it for free showdown.
      Wouldnt he fold hands like 2 pairs, sets after 2ndbarrel on this flop?
      Only about 1/3 of his range has a K, if he can fold the other 2/3, then it should be ok to bluff here.
      Would you fold? :) And then ask again if he really folds that if you ain't even doing it. :P