Please post your win rate from using the MSS

    • nitlag
      nitlag
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      Joined: 01.06.2012 Posts: 2
      Hi,

      I'm curious what win rates people have found they get using the MSS. Please post your win rate using the following format. Please feel free to share any comments you have about using the MSS -- good or bad. Please post multiples of the below figures/format if you have results over several limits. Thanks.

      Win rate =
      # hands =
      limit =
      site =
  • 15 replies
    • FlashDavin
      FlashDavin
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      Joined: 25.10.2011 Posts: 421
      Im actually curious what winrate is possible as well. I can't see anyone being much over 5bb/100 hands.
    • nitlag
      nitlag
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      Joined: 01.06.2012 Posts: 2
      What will be really interesting is if anyone has winrates playing exactly as the strategy guides advise versus win rates playing a modified style --- and what those modifications are. Will make for interesting discussion if anyone chimes in with some data.
    • ESFX2000
      ESFX2000
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      You can find this discussion here: What winrates are achievable with MSS at various stakes?
    • crisabsynt
      crisabsynt
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      Here is my MSS result at NL2 :D

    • pokerliz
      pokerliz
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      wow crisabsynt, that really looks good, how did you manage that ?
      I am really struggling with micro limits.
    • crisabsynt
      crisabsynt
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      I just play TIGHT.

      No bluff.

      Unopened pots no limped players:

      EP I raise JJ+, AQ+, AJs
      MP I raise 88+, AJ+,KQs
      CO I raise 22+,A10+,J10+

      BU I raise 22+,A2+,All broadway cards, All suited connectors.
      SB same as BU.

      If somebody limps before me, I usually izolate.

      1 limp> JJ+,AT+,KT+>>4bb
      2-3 limp> JJ+,AJ+,KQ>>5bb
      4 or more limp>JJ+, AQ+>>9 bb

      Pocket Pairs 22-TT, I just limp with them, If somebody limps before me. I think there is no FOLD EQUITY.
      Fish call your raise, and the flop bring overcards, and if you don"t hit your set, you have to fold small pairs.

      My 3-bet is depends on villain PFR range.

      PFR:
      5 %>>>>KK+
      7%>>>>QQ+
      10%>>>JJ+, AK
      15%>>>TT+,AK
      20%>>>TT+,AQ+
      25%>>>77+,AQ+,AJs,KQs
      30%>>>66+, AJ+,ATs,KJs+,QTs+,JTs+

      If villain 4-bet, I see villain 4-bet range, If stats shows me.

      If villain is 8/5, I go all-in just KK+

      But If villain is a 47/30 fish, I go all-in QQ+, and AK.


      Sorry for my english, My mother language is hungarian. :)
    • pokerliz
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      Hey Crisabsynt,

      thanks for your information.
      That is indeed a lot wider then SHC and what i am playing.
      Ofcourse I also take in consideration the stats of villain.
      I suppose your postflop skills are very good then becuase of the wider range you play.
    • cadudragon
      cadudragon
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      Hello guys! I'm from portuguese comunity. This is my life time MSS FR NL2 graphic, I'm in NL5 five right now! :f_biggrin:

      6,17 bb/100

    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
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      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,077
      So sick, keep going & good luck with your future progress :f_thumbsup:

      NL2-10, 6.54/100 hands ( the end is NL25 :f_ugly: )
    • windar021
      windar021
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      Hi guys just want to ask is this for FR or SH? Imean your guys graph.. thanks
    • luckyme44
      luckyme44
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      WR: 7.11
      #Hands: 8,459
      Limit: 20NL SH, a little bit of 50NL SH as well MSS of course
      Site: Lock Poker (revolution network)/ Cake

      I read the MSS articles and found them useful. Although I kind of play my own style in many situations depending on the table, my position, and opponents.

      MSS is mostly about Preflop and flop strategy.. IMO it's extremely easy to Multitable playing MSS strategy due to the simplicity of decisions that have to be made.

      Stick to hands with SHOWDOWN VALUE.. Instead of ones that rely on steal equity to be profitable.. Position etc...
    • crisabsynt
      crisabsynt
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      Originally posted by luckyme44
      WR: 7.11
      #Hands: 8,459
      Limit: 20NL SH, a little bit of 50NL SH as well MSS of course
      Site: Lock Poker (revolution network)/ Cake

      I read the MSS articles and found them useful. Although I kind of play my own style in many situations depending on the table, my position, and opponents.

      MSS is mostly about Preflop and flop strategy.. IMO it's extremely easy to Multitable playing MSS strategy due to the simplicity of decisions that have to be made.

      Stick to hands with SHOWDOWN VALUE.. Instead of ones that rely on steal equity to be profitable.. Position etc...
      Yes, I absolutely agree with you.

      MSS has a solid preflop strategy, and postflop strategy.

      I think, MSS is about preflop, flop, and turn. The most situation, you should make all-in or fold decision on the turn.
    • windar021
      windar021
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      ah ok so the range given above works for SH?
    • crisabsynt
      crisabsynt
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      Originally posted by windar021
      ah ok so the range given above works for SH?

      FR and SH

      FR Range is different from SH range. I dont know what range is good for SH. I just know tha FR range.
    • windar021
      windar021
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      ya I think this range is way to tight for SH.. planning to use the SHC that we have here in PS and planning on probably changing CO and BU range a bit wider..