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[NL2-NL10] NL10: KQ flop fullhouse bad line

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1885866
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      BTN: $17.41 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 0,4, Hands: 32
      SB: $10.32 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 53
      Hero (BB): $11.61 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 4,7, Hands: 65799
      UTG: $10.70 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 2,9, Hands: 200
      CO: $11.82 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 2, AF: 3,3, Hands: 138

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q :heart: K :spade:
      1 fold, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.65) K :heart: K :club: Q :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.45) 7 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($1.45) A :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.00, CO folds

      My line seems so bad because it gets so little value. How do I play it then? Villain is so unlikely to have a hand, thus I am not sure check/raising is as great. Could have check/called flop and donked any turn? To let him catch something on the turn maybe?
  • 6 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Check/Raising the flop might be a bit off, I'd rather let him barrel it off and let him at least hit something. If he has a made hand then he is also willing to pay. And Check/Raise the river if he bets all streets.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Thus my line is actually correct? What about my bet sizing? I pretty much can only assume that there is potential value from Ax, very rarely from Qx, and from JT, which I would assume would raise the river anyway, thus my sizing is OK, or could be even slightly bigger? ~$1.10 is still something that Ax can call + Qx probably folds often anyway (he has no reason to believe that I am turning anything that I called the flop with into a bluff).
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,350
      YOur line was good here, I think. He wouldn't call you or even try to bluff you with TT etc, because the board is already scary enough.

      Better luck next time =)
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Thus my line is actually correct? What about my bet sizing? I pretty much can only assume that there is potential value from Ax, very rarely from Qx, and from JT, which I would assume would raise the river anyway, thus my sizing is OK, or could be even slightly bigger? ~$1.10 is still something that Ax can call + Qx probably folds often anyway (he has no reason to believe that I am turning anything that I called the flop with into a bluff).
      I'd Check/Raise the river cause it also allows him to bluff or either if he has the Ace then he also bets it and may pay it off even. :) Vs otherwise wont raise the river but just Call you.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      So, just to clarify – check/raising river is suitable even if we checked the turn and villain checked behind instead of 2nd barreling? Because other hands won't pay us off anyway if we bet + villain can bluff + valuebet his Ax and maybe even call vs the check/raise
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      So, just to clarify – check/raising river is suitable even if we checked the turn and villain checked behind instead of 2nd barreling? Because other hands won't pay us off anyway if we bet + villain can bluff + valuebet his Ax and maybe even call vs the check/raise
      Well, if he has a hand then he is going to Bet anyways himself. :)