[NL2-NL10] NL10: A4s BBvsSB good turn bet?

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1885878
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      UTG: $11.76 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 2, 3B: 7, AF: 4,5, Hands: 42
      MP: $10.35 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 11, AF: 0,0, Hands: 42
      CO: $20.07 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 15, 3B: 10, AF: 3,1, Hands: 1332
      BTN: $9.81 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2,9, Hands: 387
      SB: $10.36 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 2, AF: 4,2, FoldTo3Bet: 50(2), cBetFlop: 78(9), cBetTurn: 60(5), AFq: 40, WTS: 37, W$SD: 50, Hands: 278
      Hero (BB): $10.07 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 4,7, Hands: 65799

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 4 :club: A :club:
      4 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.80) 2 :club: A :diamond: Q :diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

      Turn: ($1.70) T :spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB folds

      What about turn? I have difficulty putting this particular opponent on a range there but I suppose that he is giving up there a decent amount of time, might even be check/calling a smaller bet with FDs, Qx (especially Qx+GS combos) but also check calling AJ or hands such as A9-A3 (we often split with a big part of those Ax hands though). I could bet for a free showdown because I don't see him bluffing the river if I check behind and he can still call with worse hands on the turn.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Though it's pretty close preflop without a specific plan postflop. You must understand that the guy doesn't open tons of hands which makes us to earn rather profit postflop and be able to overplay him there.

      But though as we do play it and even hit then of course pretty standard play.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      1) It is very difficult to find a realistic range for villain that has less than 40% equity vs our hand (we need ~38%), that being said, are the factors that despite our equity still make this a rather close situation as follows?:

      *) if we hit our ace we are often dominated and can't really continue on multiple streets anyway
      *) despite our equity we still often also don't hit the flop at all and then we just give up, and sometimes it is even the best hand
      *) since a large part of villain's range consists of stronger hands, even when such a flop comes on which we pretty much have to make a move (since we called with such a hand in the first place), we still probably don't have that much fold equity as villain will often have a medium–strong PP or a pair with, for example, AK on a Kd7c2c flop or a similar spot, that he just probably won't fold to a raise

      2) Thus in this spot the most important factor that influences our decision is villain's tight range and not, for example, his 4BB openraise, which consequently makes our odds worse and thus makes us more inclined to consider folding (e.g., if we had to face a 3BB raise size, it would be a much more favourable situation for us to call in, right?), but at the same time is still not as relevant as those three potential complications that I mentioned that may arise from playing this particular hand vs villain's tight range?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Yes, for given reasons you wrote. Which brings us to the part where 3betting vs those guys is better and take down the pot right away if we assume to have fold equity.