[NL2-NL10] Nl10 SH KK

    • TheWinnerTakesItAll
      TheWinnerTakesItAll
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 1,187
      Opponent stats 17/12 AF:2,4 3bet:5 WTSD:30 W$SD:67 after 170 hands.

      He looks very strong when he calls my 4bet. I think he's range is JJ+.
      When he calls on the flop, I think I am behind. Maybe check/calling flop is better? What to do on the turn?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $29.01
      SB:
      $2.49
      BB:
      $19.86
      MP2:
      $19.64
      MP3 (Hero):
      $10.76
      CO:
      $10.00


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BU raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.00, BU calls $1.90.

      Flop: ($6.15) Q, 7, 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.40, BU calls $2.40.

      Turn: ($10.95) 2 (2 players)
      Hero ???
  • 7 replies
    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      I'm assuming he's getting AA in preflop and maybe QQ.

      Calling preflop with something like ,JJ-TT,AKs,AKo, maybe QQ.

      Your flop bet is very small (why?), allowing him to continue with JJ-TT and AKclubs (cheap flushdraw) and now a maybe (maybe) slowplayed QQ.

      So I think you're most likely way ahead (smaller possibility of way behind) even if he is playign QQ's like this and betting the turn for value/protection is fine as nothing has changed. Check/calling looks ok too. He might bet JJ,TT for value because you look so weak.
    • TheWinnerTakesItAll
      TheWinnerTakesItAll
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 1,187
      I bet on flop so small, because I want to get call from worse like JJ. I would bet bigger if I don't have K club myself and I don't think he has a FD here.
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Flush-draws are unlikely. If this is about speed poker (?), I'd think that he could be slowplaying aces.

      Though, on that type of flop, you should consider going broke in this hand.
    • TheWinnerTakesItAll
      TheWinnerTakesItAll
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 1,187
      Yes, this is speed poker and he had AA, maybe it was you? :D
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      No, just played so much speed poker that know when to fold KK, having AA against you isn't that incommon :D
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Here's an example from my speed poker games... Giving up KK there is NOT a mistake!


      iPoker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: $0.98
      UTG: $0.00
      MP: $5.67
      CO: $1.77
      Hero (BTN): $4.99
      SB: $0.00

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

      UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, SB raises to $1.05, fold, UTG raises to $2.85, fold, SB raises to $5.38, UTG calls $2.17

      Flop: ($10.54, 2 players) 4:spade: J:spade: 7:spade:

      Turn: ($10.54, 2 players) J:club:

      River: ($10.54, 2 players) 8:club:

      UTG shows K:spade: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (Pre 1%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
      SB shows A:club: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 99%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
      SB wins $10.02
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello TheWinnerTakesItAll,

      Against such a nit I guess we could even consider Check/Folding the turn cause what else do you expect him to have? Doubt that he even calls this way AQ, so can't beat him. JJ wont pay and QQ has us beat. So from what do we get value from?

      Though of course such a play is difficult but we also have to understand that actually there ain't that many hands what we have beat.

      Best Regards.