[NL2-NL10] Defending with TT NL5ZOOM FR

    • DucksEatFish
      DucksEatFish
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2010 Posts: 318
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      BTN: $7.49 (149.8 bb)
      Hero (SB): $5.97 (119.4 bb)
      BB: $5.75 (115 bb)
      UTG+1: $1.92 (38.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $5.14 (102.8 bb)
      MP1: $5.12 (102.4 bb)
      MP2: $5.32 (106.4 bb)
      MP3: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
      CO: $9.42 (188.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
      6 folds, BTN raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.54, BB folds, BTN raises to $1.55, Hero folds

      Results:
      $1.13 pot
      BTN mucked and won $1.13 ($0.59 net)


      I was wondering about this fold and how to interpret the 4bet-range stat.
      Villain is an 8tabling (NL5/NL10) reg. His stats from SB is 21/19 (vpip/pfr), and 65! raise first from SB, his fold vs resteal is only 43, he has 37,5! 4bet and a 4b-range of 5,4. What range can we assume he has then?

      His overall stats is 13/10/3 (vpip, pfr, 3b)
  • 4 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      normal solid players have overall 4bet range % of about ~2%. Many players at lower limits have it even lower (1-1.5%).

      I 4bet bluff a lot and mine is 3.5%. You may want to look into his positional 4bet stat but anyway don't 3bet TT if you do not have the intention of shoving. It's usually a bad play (unless you are SO certain that he never ever 4bet bluffs and calls with a ton of worse pairs and AX bullshit and suited connectors).

      Given the 5.4% range you gave him this is an easy 5bet
    • DucksEatFish
      DucksEatFish
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2010 Posts: 318
      I still don't understand what the 4bet stat means. I've read forum threads about it on hem and 2+2, but I just don't understand what the stat implies.

      Does it mean that the range he 4bets with is 88+, ATs+, KQs, AKo ?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello DucksEatFish,

      What's the reason for 3betting in first place vs such a maniac and then not planning to go broke vs him? :) Then rather Call and play postflop instead.

      Best Regards.
    • muel294
      muel294
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.06.2009 Posts: 1,207
      Hi all,

      Sorry to chime in on the OP's thread, but just had a few questions regarding this hand:

      1) @ OP

      I was wondering about this fold and how to interpret the 4bet-range stat.
      Villain is an 8tabling (NL5/NL10) reg. His stats from SB is 21/19 (vpip/pfr), and 65! raise first from SB, his fold vs resteal is only 43, he has 37,5! 4bet and a 4b-range of 5,4. What range can we assume he has then?

      His overall stats is 13/10/3 (vpip, pfr, 3b)


      what's your sample size here? And do you have his ATS stats?

      2) @ Veriz and MBML

      I still don't understand what the 4bet stat means. I've read forum threads about it on hem and 2+2, but I just don't understand what the stat implies.

      Does it mean that the range he 4bets with is 88+, ATs+, KQs, AKo ?


      Obviously this range refers to his 4b stats. In the equilator it shows TT are behind this range :


             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    52.89%  51.94%   0.95% { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AKo }
      MP3    47.11%  46.16%   0.95% { TT }


      Given the 5.4% range you gave him this is an easy 5bet


      How is this so if we are behind preflop in terms of equity? I assume its because some of the time he 4b/folds and we win un-improved, sometimes he calls worse and sometimes we are behind and suckout?