[NL20-NL50] NL25 FR - Funny Value from Quads

    • AtrociousNightmare
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP1: $16.14 (64.6 bb)
      MP2: $23.95 (95.8 bb)
      MP3: $27.46 (109.8 bb)
      CO: $10 (40 bb)
      BTN: $25.28 (101.1 bb)
      Hero (SB): $26.35 (105.4 bb)
      BB: $21.18 (84.7 bb)
      UTG+1: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
      UTG+2: $26.10 (104.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 3
      2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.65, BB folds

      Flop: ($1.75) 3 3 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.24, MP1 calls $1.24

      Turn: ($4.23) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $2.75, Hero raises to $5.50, MP1 calls $2.75

      River: ($15.23) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.32, MP1 raises to $8.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.33

      $32.53 pot ($1.78 rake)
      Final Board: 3 3 9 5 K
      MP1 showed T A and lost (-$16.14 net)
      Hero showed 3 3 and won $30.75 ($14.61 net)

      MP1 Stats: VPIP: 24, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 1,4, Hands: 21

      Ok so, due to him being pretty loose passive (even though I had very few hands) I decided to donk the flop because these players think you are bluffing 100% of the time on paired board with low cards, and also to get value from his possible PPs. Also, they are willing to pay the flop A LOT of times even without a reason especially if they are original raiser (and they like to raise it too).

      Turn, I be sneaky :f_cool: and check to induce a bet.
      He bets, at this point I could have called, but I don't like to bet big on the river to get his stack 'cos most of the time they are willing to pay much more on the turn than on the river (curiosityyyyyyy), and they commit themselves without knowing it, so, shady min-raise.
      Also, I never have the courage (and I probably shouldn't) to check OOP on the river to induce bluff, I just can't stand the idea of them checking behind and lose value.

      At least I manage to bet small, around half of his remaining stack, so that he figures out that he's committed and he WILL pay.

      He did.
      With A high.


      So, thoughts?
      Could I have done better?
  • 1 reply
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello AtrociousNightmare,

      If you donk the flop then why not just continue Betting the turn & river as well on a blank. :P This way we also can be sure that we get his money. Though as played either ship the river or if you want to let him bluff then rather Check/Shove or Call.

      Best Regards.