Wish I read this somewhere

    • hitme09
      hitme09
      Basic
      Joined: 12.09.2012 Posts: 5
      Well i turned 21 last week, i entered my first tournament at the borgatta (150 +30) and i made a few mistakes i want to point out for other noobs not to have, that i wish i was told.

      First of all, i know my Pot Odds, Implied odds, knowing the universal tells, i know how to pick up on betting patterns, so make sure you guys know this stuff first.

      My mistakes...

      -I was chip leader for over an hour and I didn't realize it.... i made a very aggressive move against the guy probably in 3rd or 4th.... i had pocket J's he had A,K the flop had low cards, no connectors, there was no flush draw he was directly to my right, so i was in a good position, it was only me and him in this hand, no one else called his first raise, which was small compared to my stack... he raised after the flop about 1/4th his stack... i pushed all in, knowing he was chasing something, and going for the blinds and my call to his earlier raise... he thought it over for 1-2 minutes and called, which actually suprised me but i wasnt afraid of this, in my opinion it was a bad call for him since i was playing very tight and everyone at the table was trying to not play me and they all knew i had something good...sure enough he picked up a K on the river...

      anyway, what i wish i knew was ALWAYS PAY attention to how much you have!!!, i should have been counting my chips, i didnt realise until than i was the chip leader by far, and he took about 60% of my stack... my mistake going along with that was i didnt look into the tournament enough, a friend told me it paid 1st 3, turns out it was final 8 was the bubble, at that point in the tournament (about 25 people left out of 70 that started) i could have played very tight, and made the bubble...but i got a little to agressive, that kid that called hadnt been at our table to long after he got moved, so he didnt pick up on my false patterns and my attempt at little false tells...so even though i think that hand i played correctly, sometimes its not worth taking big chances when your in such a lead even when you know you have the better hand.

      another mistake was when i play games im normally not elbow to elbow, i was afraid to get yelled at for bending the cards so when i looked at them i didnt conceal them as much as i should have.... my final play was 5,6s , flop came a 4 and a 7, i went all in and got called by person to left... who won with King high....my friend that got out earlier on in the tournament said the person to my left called because he saw my cards..

      i made a few stupid mistakes as well while playing, stuff i didnt realise you shouldnt do, like when i won a strait against a lady that went all in with 2 pairs i reached in to grab the pot i won i knew i had much more chips than her but i guess they count anyway, and the dealer said not to do that and i got a few laughs so...some embarassing moments, but im happy finishing 15th out of 67 people first time at a casino, a week after turning 21.

      i have to say the whole thing was a learning experience, i hope some people read this and learn to do this obvious stuff that wasnt obvious to me..


      to sum it up, always have a good idea of where you stand chip wise, and by that i mean actually count your stack, dont just compare stack sizes...as well as maybe read over the DO not's in casino poker that i didnt know :) , also when you loose 60-70% of your pot in a hand, keep your head up, i knew i was playing every hand the way i should, but i still got down on myself a little and that lead me to being stupidly agressive when they moved me to a new table shortly after.

      Good luck!

      -B

      PS: Dont jump from tournament play to cash games....bad idea of me as well lol, bought in 200$ 1-2NL, was up maybe 25-30$ 15 minutes in, lots of action on the flop which had some low cards i had AA, guy to my left put me all in, i called not even seeing the straight draw...sure enough he had it, i had my head in tournament play where people would fold low connectors like that.... oh well another lesson learned!
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    • ExternalUseOnly
      ExternalUseOnly
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      Joined: 30.01.2010 Posts: 3,373
      Hey hitme09,

      Thanks for posting your story :) Where are you from by the way?

      Ok so im not a holdem player and certainly not a tournament player but here's what i think.

      With the JJ hand what range did you have the villain on? When he donks into you for (what i imagine is) a big amount over pot size what do you have him on? Whats he chasing if the board has no connectors or flush draw? How does he play QQ+ like this out of position? How does he play when he hits a set on the flop? If you pretty much know for sure he has AK/Q/J then you are at worst 75% favourite to win the hand so i would be getting my money in if i thought he was chasing a pair or a gutshot

      As for the guy looking at your cards that just sucks but the only thing i can say is next time you will be more careful.

      It can take a while to get used to the etiquette of playing live im sure, i'm still a live poker virgin so i'm sure i will make some of these mistakes too when i get round to playing live.

      Overall you enjoyed it though and will be going back right?

      Regards
      Carl
    • hitme09
      hitme09
      Basic
      Joined: 12.09.2012 Posts: 5
      Thanks for the reply, and the only thing he could be chasing would be a high pair...I did know what he had based on his actions, he should have thought i flopped 3 of a kind, i have no idea why he called that, because even like i said i was playing super tight, and that was my first ALL in, besides calling some all in's from others that had much less chips than me....and the guy to his right told him that when he sat down and asked if i was any good, i guess he did just for the chance of taking me down....which unfortunately happened....he really had no reason to call. I guess i did play it right, i just wish i hung onto my chips better, i didnt need to go after that pot with the lead i was in, with only JJ, because he still did have the 13% chance and like i said before at that point i was going for the gold, i didnt know the bubble started at 8th or i would have just gone for the final table.

      yeah i lost 180$, but i must say, i feel like i played every hand perfect and that's a good feeling even with the loss.

      I wont be going back to AC anytime soon (next 6 months) for now ill be looking for local tournaments at bars etc and get some more practice in live...

      Even being the chip leader by far, i was so nervous just being my first time at a live table, hearing all the chips clicking around, everyone looking at me as i made my moves... and noob mistakes :/ but it happens, ill probably see some of them again in AC, i could tell 2 at my first table were regulars based on the way they played...

      I dont think ill play cash games again... i seem to not be able to get my head out of tournament play, and its so different, i almost felt like a fish..

      but 15th out of 67, i feel proud, it was all worth it, very good time!

      Im from reading PA
    • ExternalUseOnly
      ExternalUseOnly
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      Joined: 30.01.2010 Posts: 3,373
      Yeh but if you knew he had AK/Q/J then you made the right move and would have been in a GREAT position to run super deep and have a great stack for final table play so you did well you should always be thinking about what you must do not just to get in the money but to take down 1st place

      The only way to get over those nerves is to go back and keep playing and then before you know it you will be a regular watching some other guy making the nooby mistakes :)
    • hitme09
      hitme09
      Basic
      Joined: 12.09.2012 Posts: 5
      Yeah :) , I guess I did what i should have done... id go every weekend if the hotel rooms didnt start at 400$ a night ... a black card friend of mine got the room for us and another friend, thats the only reason i played a 180$ tournament, and it was my 21st birthday weekend, if im playing to make money, that would have been bad BRM lol...

      also they said they didn't have any sit and go tournaments saturday :/ which sucked, i think for now, being new to live poker, the sit and go tournaments which start at 30$ would be very good practice, and I'd probably be + after a day of playing them

      next time...

      :)

      Ohh...one thing i forgot to mention

      When the BB came around to me one hand, i did a decent raise compared to their stacks... they all folded, dealer goes to grab my cards and she accidentally flipped one over.....ruined the credibility image i was trying so hard to get....soooo gay, but i made my mistakes while playing so its all good lol