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[NL20-NL50] QQ nl25

    • CarmenPro
      Joined: 16.08.2011 Posts: 95
      PartyGaming - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP+1: $25.00
      CO: $28.43
      BTN: $22.29
      SB: $20.45
      BB: $35.98
      UTG: $31.09
      Hero (UTG+1): $31.32
      MP: $16.64

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7:diamond: 7:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, fold, fold

      Flop: ($2.60, 3 players) K:heart: 7:club: Q:club:
      Hero bets $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

      Turn: ($7.85, 3 players) 6:diamond:
      Hero bets $5.75, CO calls $5.75, fold

      River: ($19.35, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero checks, CO bets $18.39, fold

      CO wins $18.39

      PartyGaming - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $24.24
      SB: $8.40
      Hero (BB): $29.89
      UTG: $25.00
      UTG+1: $68.27
      MP: $16.08
      MP+1: $3.08
      CO: $25.00

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q:heart: Q:spade:

      UTG raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.00

      Flop: ($3.10, 2 players) T:spade: 5:diamond: 5:club:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $2.95, Hero calls $2.95

      Turn: ($9.00, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $5.70, Hero calls $5.70

      River: ($20.40, 2 players) J:spade:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $9.00, fold

      UTG wins $19.38

      Just too many people slowplay AA KK like that and is my line ok there? AA, KK, JJ, 1010, 55 obv have me beat there.. hardly he is doing that with AK there. JJ was only hope what i could let him bet on the turn by check calling. is there another better line to take? Keep inisative and bet turn myself again?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      1) Hmm River is interesting. If he 3bets KK/AK/AA always, and raises KQ a lot on the Flop, I don't think he has too many worse made hands. On the flip side, you do beat JT.

      i dont think there's much value on this particular runout in betting the river, though if he's looser with many KJ/KT which calls River really often (if you bet halfpot or less), you might want to think about betting.

      But against the average guy, he shouldn't really have KJo and KTo here. JTs seems to be the only OESD and most other draws hit. you also need to take into consideration whether he would be turning pairs into bluffs or not. Like if this guy somehow showed up with AQ, this is a very good spot to pot the River to rep the flush and fold out all your strong hands.

      2) You may want to consider not 3betting QQ in this spot, esp if you don't even feel comfortable stacking off with your overpair. Also dependent on his tightness, and whether he often calls with worse pairs or not.

      With that said, I am much more likely to 3bet a minraise from UTG, it just seems weaker more often than a 3BB raise. People who raise smaller also tend to open with wider ranges.
    • bradomurder
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,331
      hand 1 seems standard but annoying.

      hand 2, If I 3bet it would be against someone that I felt there was value in betting the flop at least. There's a huge amount of worse hands that will call there, some people will float almost all their range.

      As played I guess JJ, or Tx are far more likely than KK and AA so I call until the river then probably just say ah f**k it I've got good odds and call the river too. But folding the river is probably correct
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello CarmenPro,

      1st hand is already evaluated.

      2nd hand you should be 3betting it bigger preflop for value vs the min-raise. And otherwise as we 3bet it for value vs the min-raise then also Bet the flop & turn myself rather than turning it into bluff-catcher and might have folded even the best hand.

      Best Regards.