HU Stats

    • windar021
      windar021
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      Hi just have question in average micro stakes(maybe 2 to 5NL) players stats might be:
      TAG:
      LAG:
      Loose Passive:
      Tight Passive:

      how big should VPIP be to consider someine playing tight or loose, same w PFR how big should it be to consider them aggre..

      Im not even sure if I understood these one here:
      lets say VPIP: 50, PFR: 25, Hands: 100(to make it simple), does this means player is playing 50% of 100 hands meaning loose and playing 50 hands then since PFR is 25 is this 25% of 100 hands making it raising 25 hands out of 100 or 25% of VPIP:50 at this scenario 50 hands so 13 i guess hand he is raising?

      really need help on this one thanks..
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    • yoshiwa
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      are you talking about a real HU cashgame here?
    • windar021
      windar021
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      Im talking about 6-MAX cash game here.. trying to understand how to read stats on my HUD effectively.. I do play at 2NL - 10NL 6 max stars and party
    • yoshiwa
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      hmm then i wont be much of a help ;)
    • TiciBoy
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      Originally posted by windar021

      Im not even sure if I understood these one here:
      lets say VPIP: 50, PFR: 25, Hands: 100(to make it simple), does this means player is playing 50% of 100 hands meaning loose and playing 50 hands then since PFR is 25 is this 25% of 100 hands making it raising 25 hands out of 100 or 25% of VPIP:50 at this scenario 50 hands so 13 i guess hand he is raising?
      well in this case he played 50 hands and raised 25. I wish you many such players because this kind of stats indicate a fish. ;)

      TAG would be something like ~16/14
      LAG is something like ~25/21
      Tight passive ~15/3
      Loose passive ~30/4

      If he plays 40/30+ on micros over a decent sample he is not a LAG, but rather a maniac. ;)
    • windar021
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      is 25/21 a pretty good stats? what kind of 3b stats can i 3Bet lite? stats for a typical calling station or fish at this stakes?
    • windar021
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      ANY ANSWER TO THIS WILL BE VERY HELPFUL:

      Heres how I want to do it..
      I want to put color ranges lets say 1-16 green(indicates tightness) 17-30 blue(indicates looseness) 31- 100(maniac or fish)..
      what about PFR how can I range them from being passive to aggressive?
    • TiciBoy
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      Originally posted by windar021
      is 25/21 a pretty good stats? what kind of 3b stats can i 3Bet lite? stats for a typical calling station or fish at this stakes?
      There are good players playing 25/21 and simmilar stats, yes.

      Why would you look at his 3bet to determine if you can 3bet light. Do you mean 4bet light? It helps to look at positional 3bet. People will usually 3bet more from BU and the blinds.

      If you want to 3bet you need to look at villains fold to 3bet stat. If he folds a lot, 3bet the hell out of him. ;)
    • TiciBoy
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      Originally posted by windar021
      ANY ANSWER TO THIS WILL BE VERY HELPFUL:

      Heres how I want to do it..
      I want to put color ranges lets say 1-16 green(indicates tightness) 17-30 blue(indicates looseness) 31- 100(maniac or fish)..
      what about PFR how can I range them from being passive to aggressive?
      For 6max I would go something like this
      VPIP: 0-12 (very tight), 13-19 (tight), 20-30 (loose), 30+ (very loose)
      PFR: 0-10 (passive), 11-16 (aggressive), 17-28 (very aggressive), 29+ (maniac)

      Ofcourse that woud be true for decent sample sizes...

      Edit: This for micros...for midstakes probably you can increase each for few %. But wouldn't know, since I'm not there (yet) :D