[NL2-NL10] nl10 kk sh..

    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      6 hands 17/0

      Did I play this too passively? Miss value on river?

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $10.00
      SB: $14.64
      BB: $24.34
      UTG: $12.61
      MP: $7.26
      Hero (CO): $10.00

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:spade: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, fold

      Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 6:club: 6:spade: 5:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.54, SB raises to $1.08, Hero calls $0.54

      Turn: ($2.86, 2 players) 3:spade:
      SB bets $1.90, Hero calls $1.90

      River: ($6.66, 2 players) 9:club:
      SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

      SB shows T:club: 7:club: (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 20%, Flop 9%, Turn 9%)
      Hero shows K:spade: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (Pre 80%, Flop 91%, Turn 91%)
      Hero wins $14.96
  • 6 replies
    • yougotfelted51
      yougotfelted51
      Gold
      Joined: 04.02.2010 Posts: 1,276
      villains range for flop xr can be 6x, 55, 5x, 87/74/43, plus random pps like 77-JJ and some that spazz out like 22-44. additionally, villain can have some overs and decide to xr like AJ/AT/QJ/JT etc.

      by river i would most likely fold as i cant see villain min xr'ing flop and bombing turn and river with hands that we beat. 77/88 are most likely to c/f or c/c now.

      as for missing value, dont think you ever get called by worse when you shove river over villains bet

      by the sounds of it villain had some spew/5x here?

      haha looked at spoiler and boy was i wrong on my read :(
    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      Yeah the flop is about as dry as they come. I figured at the flop that his minraise probably represented an overpair (and that he was a fish) and that as long as the board remained dry I was going to call every street if he kept betting. If he had a 6 or 55, then yeah I was going to be in trouble.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      I'd just try to get it in on the flop. Many overpairs especially JJ,TT pay you off big time here.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello jules97,

      Getting it in on the flop would be rather overplay cause not that many worse pay and we don't even allow him to continue bluffs. Weaker holdings just fold. So call-down is fine if we also assume the guy capable of bluffing. Without those expectations I'd be rather willing to fold the river whilst now 78 also got there.

      Best Regards.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Hi Veriz,

      I see a lot of overpairs overplay their hands here on this board at these stakes all the time. Very likely for someone to get it in with a JJ/TT here when we 3bet them.

      Even if we just call the flop shouldn't we raise the turn and get it in?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by maheepsangari
      Hi Veriz,

      I see a lot of overpairs overplay their hands here on this board at these stakes all the time. Very likely for someone to get it in with a JJ/TT here when we 3bet them.

      Even if we just call the flop shouldn't we raise the turn and get it in?
      It's ZOOM, so I doubt so. :) Standard call-down and reevaluate further actions and keep his bluffs in the play.