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[NL2-NL10] NL5 K3s bottom pair + FD!

    • AA91EST
      Joined: 16.11.2009 Posts: 239
      No information. He made his donkbet 1st time,.
      Preflop SB was nitty and BB wasn't loose either and not full stacked so i desided to steal with 3xBB raise not with 4BB.
      Flop - didnt know what donkbet means so desided call because i got positsion and backdoor FD and 5outs for trips/two pairs.
      Turn: This bet is strong i didn't know what do too. What range you would give him? and what should i do?

      I think if i don't know villain it's better fold on flop to avoid marginal situation like this.

      Hand converted with online hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K, 3.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10.

      Flop: ($0.32) 4, 3, 5 (2 players)
      BB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15.

      Turn: ($0.62) 8 (2 players)
      BB bets $0.65, Hero ???????????????

  • 3 replies
    • duder1n0
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,335
      If you steal wide, you can even raise smaller from BTN, like 2,5x.

      What does it mean that BB wasnt loose? Based on his stacksize he seems to be a fish, so was he a nitfish then?

      If we assume that he is defending loose from BTN (35-40%), and his flop donk range could be wide (pairs/Ax/6x/7x beside monsters and overpairs), then flop call is quite easy with our equity (pair+backdoorFD)
      On the turn he pots, so as he is unknown we have to think it's a stronger/tighter range. I'd give him something like this:

      Asztal: 5:spade: 4:club: 3:diamond:  8:spade:
             Részesedés   Nyert  Osztozás
      BU         30.44%  30.44%     0.00% { Ks3s }
      BB         69.56%  69.56%     0.00% { JJ-33, A8s, A5s, A2s, K5s, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 53s+, 43s, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As7s, Qs7s, Js7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, As6s, As4s, 6s4s, 4s2s, A8o, A5o, A2o }

      We need ~34% for the call on the turn, so it's quite close. With the backdoor flush we have good implied odds, but on the other hands our 3/K outs may not be clean, so I'd rather fold. Plus his turn range could even be tighter than above, and then we have even less equity.
    • awishformore
      Joined: 16.06.2007 Posts: 922
      His turn range is definitely tighter than that.

      It's an overbet after all, which in general polarizes his range. So the question you have to ask yourself is: will he bluff here? If you can answer, yes, quite often and I'm quite sure: shove it as a semi-bluff.

      If you can't just fold.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello AA91EST,

      Rather fold the turn cause we can't be sure if we are getting the implied odds, also his pot size Bet looks quite strong so we can't expect to be ahead either.

      Best Regards.