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[NL20-NL50] NL25 FR - QQ against turn shove

    • Nitrub
      Joined: 12.01.2008 Posts: 98
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players - Hand History Converter

      Hero (UTG): $25.25
      UTG+1: $23.50
      UTG+2: $16.05
      MP1: $25.70
      MP2: $3.95
      CO: $32.75
      BTN: $24.30
      SB: $22.75
      BB: $23.10

      Pre-Flop: Q:diamond: Q:spade: dealt to Hero (UTG)
      Hero raises to $1, 7 folds, BB calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.10) J:spade: 8:spade: T:heart: (2 Players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75

      Turn: ($5.60) 3:spade: (2 Players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB raises to $20.60 and is All-In, Hero folds

      Think this is easy fold?
  • 3 replies
    • VTomukas
      Joined: 30.12.2007 Posts: 252
      Without reads - IMHO easy one :) What hands can You beat there? Even simple 2 pair still is favorite, against any other non-bluff - big underdog.

      Maybe only one hand I can c You could beat - As T. But most of a times You will face small flush there, being afraid You have bigger spade and can draw him out on river. IMHO :)
    • aciddrop
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      I agree that this looks like a small flush, and bet/fold is fine here.

      If you have reads on the guy, and you know that he is likely to play this way when on a draw, an alternative can be to check behind this turn, and see whether you improve to the flush on the river yourself. Your 3rd nuts can be the winner then.
    • Thorsten77
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Its a clear check behind on the turn: one of the obvious draws arrived. If he has a straight draw, he only has 5 Outs now. You have 4 Outs to a straight and 9 Outs to a flush, so bet/folding may cost you a ton of equity in the hand. Further, the check behind may induce a bluff on the river.