[NL2-NL10] Nl10 Qq

    • TheWinnerTakesItAll
      TheWinnerTakesItAll
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 1,187
      Opponent stats 16/10 AF:3,2 WTSD:15 W$SD:75 fold to 3bet:71 after 230 hands.

      Did I make mistake in this hand? Maybe I should bet bigger on the flop and on the turn?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $9.85
      BU:
      $12.16
      SB:
      $17.09
      BB (Hero):
      $10.00
      UTG1:
      $3.70
      UTG2:
      $10.73
      MP1:
      $10.00
      MP2:
      $11.49
      MP3:
      $5.45


      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
      6 folds, BU raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BU calls $0.70.

      Flop: ($2.05) T, 6, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, BU calls $1.10.

      Turn: ($4.25) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.30, BU calls $2.30.

      River: ($8.85) 9 (2 players)
      Hero raises to $5.60, BU calls $5.60.

      Final Pot: $20.05.

      Results follow:

      BU shows a straight, king high(Jh Ks).
      Hero shows three of a kind, queens(Qd Qc).

      BU wins with a straight, king high(Jh Ks).
  • 6 replies
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Bet 2/3 of the pot on flop for value, he's not folding that many hands there.

      Turn even bigger, 3/4, because he might still have some overcards and backdoor draws are opening, too.
    • cozacu
      cozacu
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.02.2010 Posts: 1,379
      As CPallo said, bigger flop, and way bigger turn :D

      River sux because his hand really looks like KJ, he would probably raise on flop or at least on turn with a set of his own or some KK,AA... as played he`s not getting the right odds to call... betting way bigger would give him even worst odds, that doesn't matter in this hand, because after he called the flop, he`ll do the same on the turn but in the long run when he doesn't hit you`ll get more value.

      Hands that might get to showdown like this that you beat are AQ and KQ.
    • yougotfelted51
      yougotfelted51
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2010 Posts: 1,276
      no need to be results oriented.
      whole hand is standard.

      good bet sizing throughout the hand. why bet bigger and force out more of his range on such a dry board? go for 3 streets of value in this spot.

      if board was 87ss 4Qhh i would be much more inclined to bet flop and turn bigger
    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      I agree with yougotfelted looks fine.

      I'd say nice hand, well played!

      If he got to the river with KJ, nice hand by him! :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Got to get back to this boys. This guy looks a bit passive, and what he is representing there after all? Maybe AT (won't fold on flop), or straight draws. if the guy is willing to pay more with those hands then get value from them. It suits you better. Betting 1/2 just lets your opponent to suck out and take your stack, when you won't have profit at all. Just make him expensive to hit that bad draw. Your profits will get bigger by time.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,858
      stop being results oriented. :P

      this is a 3bet pot, looks well played to me. :f_biggrin:
      i would still bet turn a bit bigger, not to charge from draws, but to make him feel more pot commited and increase our success rate of shoving the river.

      even if this wasn't a 3bet pot, what draws are there on the flop really? and with the info we have, do you think he is floating us with pure air?
      the only explanation i can see for such a villain to play this way is tilt. sick beat :P