[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL50 T6s

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Platinum
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

      SB: $122.10 (244.2 bb)
      Hero (BB): $79.38 (158.8 bb)
      MP: $83.50 (167 bb)
      CO: $65.53 (131.1 bb)
      BTN: $53.14 (106.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T 6
      3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

      Flop: ($1) 9 J 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

      Turn: ($3) 3 (2 players)
      SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

      River: ($7) 4 (2 players)
      SB bets $5, Hero raises to $14, SB raises to $23, Hero calls $9


      Anon table.

      River call?
  • 9 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello pcfmcc02,

      Not even sure if I am willing to donate the money. :D Though we are getting pretty sick odds. What would he ever bluff/value-3bet with worse in freeplay pot? Can't see many hands. :(

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Why not raise preflop given our hand's playability + position vs a likely weak range?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Why not raise preflop given our hand's playability + position vs a likely weak range?
      Whatever is fine, don't see any problem if hero picks passive approach.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      We are not raising turn for value + protection because we are deep?
      Would raising give us too much fold equity given our stack sizes?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      We are not raising turn for value + protection because we are deep?
      Would raising give us too much fold equity given our stack sizes?
      Cause clearly not many worse call us + it's a freeplay pot + we have just T high flush. :)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Cause clearly not many worse call us + it's a freeplay pot + we have just T high flush.


      1) Is there no value from two pairs, Jx, Acx and some other combo draws? Judging from the opencomplete we might very often be up against a loose opponent in this spot.

      2) And how come we are not getting called by worse on the turn but we still can raise the river? Are we really giving up too much information about our hand by raising the turn, i.e., given that our opponent may often be a fish, is it not possible that he doesn't read hands well enough to know that we basically always have the flush there?

      it's a freeplay pot


      3) The characteristics of freeplay pots = our opponent's are generally less likely to pay us off because they have not invested a lot + their ranges are wide and we often should try to keep them wide in spots like these because generally their holdings will not usually be super strong + since our opponent's range's are wide and they often don't hit, we're better off keeping his bluffs in?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      1) Is there no value from two pairs, Jx, Acx and some other combo draws? Judging from the opencomplete we might very often be up against a loose opponent in this spot.

      What 2pairs? :f_cry: There ain't many 2pairs around even.

      2) And how come we are not getting called by worse on the turn but we still can raise the river? Are we really giving up too much information about our hand by raising the turn, i.e., given that our opponent may often be a fish, is it not possible that he doesn't read hands well enough to know that we basically always have the flush there?

      Cause we clearly squeezed value from his bluffs in that spot which bet also the river and now we might have even got squeezed some value from his sets? :P That easy is poker. :D

      3) The characteristics of freeplay pots = our opponent's are generally less likely to pay us off because they have not invested a lot + their ranges are wide and we often should try to keep them wide in spots like these because generally their holdings will not usually be super strong + since our opponent's range's are wide and they often don't hit, we're better off keeping his bluffs in?

      Clearly people don't go broke in freeplay pots. ;) Nor pay with a lot worse hands unless he is a HUGE STATION.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Calling would probably still be the best play on the turn with the nut flush as well, right? Unless our opponent is a very big station.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Calling would probably still be the best play on the turn with the nut flush as well, right? Unless our opponent is a very big station.
      Even more likely with the nut-flush. We want to keep his bluffs and weaker hands in the play.