Game of luck or skill?

    • SherlockHolmes2ez
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      Everybody around in my city was saying that poker is a game of luck, I always dissagree it I was saying, it's skill based what are you talking about?!
      But today in pokerstars I learned what is poker, Did My best always put the money in good, and guess what I lost all my bankroll? lost 6 times on river cards just 4 outer or 2 outer I was losing again and again got AA lost versus 52, it was incredible day, river was like hell my opponent never misses to win the last card. So tell me now where is the skill on this? Or just shitty pokerstars is like that?
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    • MrMardyBum
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      Everyone has a bad days, it's called variance, just because you have AA doesn't mean you are going win every hand.

      AA vs. 5,2s will lose 18.3% of the time and you just fell into that 18.3%.. Also, if you lost "all your bankroll" then you are not practicing any realistic form of bankroll management, I suggest you start because it's pretty much the only way to survive days like this.
    • SherlockHolmes2ez
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      Originally posted by MrMardyBum
      Everyone has a bad days, it's called variance, just because you have AA doesn't mean you are going win every hand.

      AA vs. 5,2s will lose 18.3% of the time and you just fell into that 18.3%.. Also, if you lost "all your bankroll" then you are not practicing any realistic form of bankroll management, I suggest you start because it's pretty much the only way to survive days like this.
      I use bankroll managment, relax I know implied odds and percentages, just it's impossible to not lose if ur best hand always get crush on the river.
    • zobupasts
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      You MUST use proper bankroll management! If you lost your entire bankroll than sorry but you are the only one to blame.
    • Tomaloc
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      game of luck
    • vmarqui
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      Originally posted by Tomaloc
      game of luck
    • Krishjanis
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      Originally posted by Tomaloc
      game of luck
      Yep, this is correct!
      Everyone pack your bags, poker is only based on luck, nothing to do here.
    • PokerPPP
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      What was your bankroll & what limits are you playing? I have lost my bankrolls several times but only due to lack of bankroll management.
    • fuzzyfish
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      OP you remind me of another user who was recently active in this forum, reposting the same topics again and again. Cant remember the name, but he was damn irritating. Like you.
    • Nardiss
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      I like such threads so much..
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      Q: Game of luck or skill?
      A: Both.
    • EnterG
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    • Erevos
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      Originally posted by Schnitzelfisch
      Q: Game of luck or skill?
      A: Both.
      Yeah, it 's the skill of managing the luck.
      And with 20+ buy ins, you must go on a frenzy tilt of Hell in order to lose it all.
      Just take a break and calm. Money and poker are not even close to other great things in life which can make us happy.
    • TiciBoy
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      Originally posted by SherlockHolmes2ez
      Originally posted by MrMardyBum
      Everyone has a bad days, it's called variance, just because you have AA doesn't mean you are going win every hand.

      AA vs. 5,2s will lose 18.3% of the time and you just fell into that 18.3%.. Also, if you lost "all your bankroll" then you are not practicing any realistic form of bankroll management, I suggest you start because it's pretty much the only way to survive days like this.


      I use bankroll managment, relax I know implied odds and percentages, just it's impossible to not lose if ur best hand always get crush on the river.
      It's one thing to use good bankroll managment which helps you not to blow your bankroll or in your case to use bad bankroll managment and lose all your bankroll.

      And for your question...

      Originally posted by Schnitzelfisch
      Q: Game of luck or skill?
      A: Both.
    • Riverdiver
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      There should just be a sticky thread for all the whiners to discuss this.....
    • Tarhonya
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      Easy, both.

      But, the better you are at it, the more skill based it is and vice versa.
    • ShaQQ
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      Like any game there are elements of luck and skill, focus on what you can control and skill heavily outweighs the luck factor.
      Problem with most players is they might have good fortune to start with but end up slightly down or a big chunk and don't pursue it further to appreciate how much skill is involved, but carry on with the opinion that poker is purely luck based.
      Poker really puts strain on all aspects of psychology and strategy, it's a constant strain which is why the majority of players end up giving it a miss or give up prematurely, the rewards for sticking it out are really satisfying though, not just the financial aspect.
    • Tim64
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      Originally posted by Tarhonya
      Easy, both.

      But, the better you are at it, the more skill based it is and vice versa.
      :s_thumbsup:
    • gp00053
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      Lets not leave out "online poker is rigged"

      Seriously it's not enough to know about bankroll management, you have to practice it faithfully every session. when you develope that skill you will find your luck will change
    • UPAY4DINNER
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      Originally posted by Tim64
      Originally posted by Tarhonya
      Easy, both.

      But, the better you are at it, the more skill based it is and vice versa.
      :s_thumbsup:
      I second Tim :)
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