[NL2-NL10] nl2 AA facing 3 bet on the turn

    • aktobe
      aktobe
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2012 Posts: 12
      Villain is pretty regular. 14/7/0.8 only from 23 hands
      So 3bet OTT, to me, looks like Ace High or 66, right? I can't really see him doing this a lot with a set. Nor can't I really see him call a pfr and cbet with that many Ax hands
      Is this always a call or can we fold here?


      Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (UTG+2): $0.80 (40 bb)
      MP2: $0.93 (46.5 bb)
      MP3: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
      BTN: $2.66 (133 bb)
      CO: $0.76 (38 bb)
      MP1: $2.81 (140.5 bb)
      SB: $1.80 (90 bb)
      BB: $2 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A A
      Hero raises to $0.06, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.06, 5 folds

      Flop: ($0.15) 4 3 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.09, MP2 calls $0.09

      Turn: ($0.33) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.24, MP2 raises to $0.78 and is all-in, Hero?
  • 5 replies
    • Spungeh
      Spungeh
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.06.2011 Posts: 1,212
      call.

      you dont bet the turn to fold :D

      IF you are folding, check/fold the turn. But its a call

      IF he does have 67.. thenn... :facepalm:
    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
      Diamond
      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,078
      Hey,

      I don't see any worse hand raising here. Your opponent might know that any 6x beats him so he probably won't turn his weak straight into a bluff. I think you can fold after a reraise.
    • Spungeh
      Spungeh
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.06.2011 Posts: 1,212
      Originally posted by JohnDoe1313
      Hey,

      I don't see any worse hand raising here. Your opponent might know that any 6x beats him so he probably won't turn his weak straight into a bluff. I think you can fold after a reraise.
      I disagree you can check fold but when you already invested 50% of your stack it's not a fold. I would either check fold or bet call.

      My actual line would be to check/call the river. Let them give a bluff. When you donk and get raised you are -EV to call. Which makes betting the river already -EV. So check/call is probably the best line.

      Another reason not to fold is because an Ax hand is much more likely than a 6x hand. So he's getting you of the split. You are basically giving him money in that instance.

      FML - on phone and thought were on river. Will edit later. But I think it's -EV to bet fold.
    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
      Diamond
      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,078
      Yes we invested pretty big part of our stack. I could be mistaking but I think our opponent will raise 6x more often than Ax or pure bluff, so in my opinion we are behind or rarely splitting. So I would fold.

      Based on what I've seen on NL2 I don't like check/calling river because people are too passive to bluff here. I would check/fold river if called on turn.
    • ctstc
      ctstc
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2009 Posts: 6,280
      You can't fold on the Turn, you only need 25,2% Equity and you will nearly always have it against his range.
      6x Hands aren't often in his range here, Ax very often. So you will often get a Slpit.