[NL20-NL50] KK fold pre ?? nl 50 sh

    • dzikson999
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 532
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG: $50.00
      MP: $156.78
      CO: $59.65
      Hero (BTN): $80.36
      SB: $30.65
      BB: $41.66

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K:diamond: K:heart:

      UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $4.25, BB raises to $41.66 and is all-in, UTG raises to $50.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $45.50, fold

      Flop: ($146.16, 3 players) 8:heart: 4:heart: A:heart:

      Turn: ($146.16, 3 players) J:spade:

      River: ($146.16, 3 players) J:diamond:

      UTG- reg
      SB,BB- pasive calling stations
      Should i ever fold KK preflop for 100 bb for exemple on such hevy action ?!
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I kind of think that you should. When BB shoves I think he has AA really often. UTG's timing is also important, like if he snap calls you should 100% fold here. I actually expect a more passive player to flat QQ in BB's shoes.

      If BB is a spazz fish or he is from East Europe or Scandanavia you should snap (cos UTG snaps here with AK and QQ).
    • circoflax
      Joined: 26.02.2010 Posts: 413
      What's the 3bet of BB, cause you said passive but does he 3bet? Or 1.1%?

      I think UTG has AA here if that guy in the BB is so passive. Tough fold though.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello dzikson999,

      With just knowing that one is a reg and other guy is a fish it's hard to estimate their ranges. :) Do you ever consider knowing what they are going broke here if you would know yourself that information? For example I wouldn't.

      Therefore tell also about those factors which would rate here either to go broke or not. What kind of reg, what kind of fish. Some reg may even call with just AK here or JJ/QQ as well cause they want money from fish. Especially if you also were 3bet happy.

      Some fish doesn't shove with very loose range but instead just call and play postflop. :) So without any reads I don't see myself folding here. How are we able to put UTG only on AA here nor of course as you said calling station, you can't really do that.

      Best Regards.