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[NL2-NL10] BB KQs vs CO open raise

    • malcolmlinco
      Joined: 25.08.2010 Posts: 239
      PartyGaming - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $4.00
      SB: $4.13
      Hero (BB): $4.47
      UTG: $4.24
      CO: $4.88 29/21; raise_first_in(CO) 27;AF 2; cbet 55; WTSD 35

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K:heart: Q:heart:

      fold, CO raises to $0.16, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.34, 2 players) 7:spade: 4:diamond: Q:club:
      Hero bets $0.24, CO calls $0.24

      Turn: ($0.82, 2 players) 4:heart:
      Hero bets $0.52, CO calls $0.52

      River: ($1.86, 2 players) T:spade:
      Hero bets $0.88, CO calls $0.88

      i decided to take initiative on flop as i wasn't sure he's gonna cbet and kept barreling becuse of his high WTSD.
      seems ok?
  • 4 replies
    • generals007
      Joined: 17.09.2007 Posts: 578
      I think depends on the guy. If he doesn't cbet a lot and you know that it seems perfect, if you are against unknown I'd check/call as it is a dry board and he will most likely cbet it (and you also don't have to fear draws calling him).
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343

      seems fine. I would have bet 1.2$ on the river. other wise nicely played- you can definitely lead with KQs is you don´t want to c/r or go for pot control

      best regards,
    • dienaszaglis
      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999

      Where`s the line, where we can start to 3bet for value with this hand against such a villain?
      More specifically - villains fold to 3bet stat.

      I played around with equities, villain opens 27% from the CO:

      *If he folds 80% to 3bets, his calling range is JJ-88,AQo-AJo,AQs-AJs,KQs, our equity: 42%
      *If he folds 70% to 3bets: his calling range is JJ-66,AQo-AJo,KQo,AQs-ATs,KQs-KJs,QJs, our equity: 46%
      *If he folds 60% to 3bets: his calling range is JJ-66,AQo-ATo,KQo,AQs-A7s,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs, our equity: 47%
      *If he folds 50% to 3bets: his calling range is JJ-22,AQo-ATo,KQo-KJo,AQs-A7s,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs, our equity: 50%

      As it shows, our equity does not increase that much, also we have to remember, that we`re OOP.
      I think, I would start to 3bet, if he folds less than 60%.

      Of course, his calling ranges are rough estimates. Also, a lot depends on villains tendencies, fold to C-bet, WTSD etc.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello malcolmlinco,

      What's the point of donking in those spots? I see he doesn't CB much but we ain't gonna get called from a lot worse either. Rather let him at least try to CB in those spots whilst this is most likely a board where he will do that while it's pretty dry.

      Though as played not much to comment, betting for value mainly.

      Best Regards.