[NL20-NL50] Fr50 A8

    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $27.00
      MP2:
      $52.08
      MP3:
      $22.08
      CO:
      $17.75
      BU:
      $24.25
      SB:
      $55.80
      BB (Hero):
      $99.25


      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 8.
      4 folds, BU raises to $1.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.00, BU raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $99.75, BU calls $18.25.

      Flop: ($123.75) 2, 3, K (2 players)


      Turn: ($123.75) 5 (2 players)


      River: ($123.75) 3 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $123.75.

      MSS REG 21/18/11% 3bet/ fold to 4bet 2 out of 5/ 5bet 2 out of 4. over 386hands

      WTSD 25% wins 64%
      viable long run?
      sample size too small?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Evante,

      What's his fold to 3bet? Then we start to talk about more serious stuff here. Might even not make sense to 3bet in first place. :) Also why you talking about fold to 4bet whilst actually we are 3betting + 5bet stat is also rather small for getting an overall image of him.

      Best Regards.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      sorry for the sloppy work, Sir.

      Villain hos fold to 3bet is 50% out of 10

      his steal at is 53%, fold to resteal is 0 out of 3.

      Sir when you mean sample is too small is to overall hands or just the 4bet and 5bet hands?

      if so how much is enough for us to play back vs this kind of playa?

      Thanks....
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Evante
      sorry for the sloppy work, Sir.

      Villain hos fold to 3bet is 50% out of 10

      his steal at is 53%, fold to resteal is 0 out of 3.

      Sir when you mean sample is too small is to overall hands or just the 4bet and 5bet hands?

      if so how much is enough for us to play back vs this kind of playa?

      Thanks....
      3bet tells you everything what you should be doing in that spot. You can't really 3bet unless you also planning to play back vs his 4bet. Here is better option just to call and play the hand postflop instead.

      Which sample is enough is difficult to say cause clearly those 4bet/5bet spots depend on the opponent, our dynamics, villain emotions etc. Then we also taking into account the stats if it's using the same style over and over again, though human being ain't a bot so they still change a bit of it.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      Call and raise most flops?

      flops like?

      I am not very good playing A8 and especially OOP.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Evante
      Call and raise most flops?

      flops like?

      I am not very good playing A8 and especially OOP.
      It's just a min-raise so you can easily Call and play postflop. If you are not good then it ain't a good reason to 3bet it either if the guy is 4bet happy or rarely folds to 3bets. Then rather just fold those hands.

      What kind of flops to raise, where to float, where to fold -> it's obviously impossible to tell with just few words. It's gonna need a huge article for that as also depends on opponent against we are. There are just major factors which could change just a basic and simple move into maybe even donking.