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[NL2-NL10] NL10 Pot on flop $6,35

    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 856
      Known players:
      Hero:
      $1,55
      UTG+2:
      $10,91
      UTG+1:
      $11,60
      MP2:
      $16,22
      CO:
      $8,48
      BB:
      $3,95
      MP3:
      $10,51
      MP1:
      $2,00
      UTG:
      $2,00
      SB:
      $10,31

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.53 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:heart: , Q:spade:
      2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0,10, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0,10, MP3 folds, CO calls $0,10, Hero raises to $0,70, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0,60, MP2 calls $0,60, CO raises to $1,30, Hero raises to $1,55 (All-In), UTG+2 calls $0,85, MP2 calls $0,85, CO calls $0,25.

      Flop: ($6,35) 7:diamond: , 7:club: , 6:diamond: (3 players)
      UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $2,00, UTG+2 calls $2,00, MP2 calls $2,00.

      Turn: ($12,35) J:spade: (3 players)
      UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO raises $4,93 (All-In), UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $4,93.

      River: ($22,21) 7:spade:


      Final Pot: $22,21

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, sevens (Kh Qs)
      MP2 shows three of a kind, sevens (5s 4d)
      CO shows three of a kind, sevens (As Th)

      CO wins with three of a kind, sevens (As Th)

      Sorry, had to post results, big battle and high card wins...
      I wonder if UTG+2 had a pocket pair :D
  • 4 replies
    • 098799
      098799
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.07.2007 Posts: 1,245
      Hello again Oly,

      in this spot it's simple - shove it right away without raising before. See: you are going to raise $0.7 and you have only $0.85 left. No point in dividing such a small stack into two so just push directly.

      Good luck!
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 856
      SSS tells me to push if I raise more than half of my stack, and your experience tell you to push right away in this situation. Problem is I don't have your experience when I play :)
      So, can you give me some guidelines in what situations should I push even when the raise is not more than half of my stack, or I must gain enough experience to C it by myself?
    • 098799
      098799
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.07.2007 Posts: 1,245
      Oh, I think there are no strict rules, but I can tell you when I push myself.

      In position: with 2 limpers with a stack of less than 15BB,
      with 3 limpers up to 17 I think,
      with 4 and more nearly always and when my stack is so large it would be too risky (after double ups for example) I just don't play weaker hands, and stronger will prove worthy.

      Out of position: with 2 limpers everytime when my stack is 20BB and lower (!)
      with 3+ limpers - just like above.

      Of course there are other factors affecting my evalutaion on the limit I play - I mean, stats and notes. But that cannot really be brightly described. So I do not stick exactly to the rules above - I'm not even sure if they are right. Most of the times it's happening like: oh, ok, they're loose and from middle/late position, I'll push and they'll easily fold. And they do, so I'm happy ;) .

      I'll leave the thread for xylere to correct me and these estimated ranges.
    • xylere
      xylere
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      yeah, well
      I agree that its hard to provide the guidelines
      in general, i would push no matter what with 3+ limpers

      Generally, its better to push oop (since I raie 5+1x oop), because you are commited and have to push first in.

      so 2+ limpers with sligthly reduced stack (as 098799 proposed) seems fine to me

      But in general, post hands with specific situations, so we can discuss it