[NL20-NL50] NL25: JJ call vs 3Bet SBvsBB

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1982574
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      BTN: $39.74 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 21, 3B: 14, AF: 1,8, Hands: 113
      Hero (SB): $25.45 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 4,8, Hands: 90087
      BB: $28.77 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2,5, Hands: 215
      UTG: $33.48 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 3,5, Hands: 714
      MP: $23.90 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2,1, Hands: 355
      CO: $24.72 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 1,2, Hands: 380

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :diamond: J :spade:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75

      Flop: ($5.00) 4 :heart: 4 :spade: 7 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      Turn: ($5.00) 6 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25

      River: ($9.50) 5 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      What about turn bet sizing, given that he most likely has got overcards?
  • 10 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Seems to be fine, though I'd Bet river. :P To get called from Ace high.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      though I'd Bet river. tongue out To get called from Ace high.


      The structure of the board is not too scary/dangerous for a vBet on the river, is it?
      Could we bet 1/3 to get called by A high? ~$3.50?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Avatars91
      though I'd Bet river. tongue out To get called from Ace high.


      The structure of the board is not too scary/dangerous for a vBet on the river, is it?
      Could we bet 1/3 to get called by A high? ~$3.50?
      Well, what do you plan to do on the river then? Check/Fold?
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Well, what do you plan to do on the river then? Check/Fold?


      River is difficult if he bets vs our check, but since I wouldn't really like to play a guessing game, I would end up check/folding vs a any normally sized bet.

      I guess that the "he would have bluffed on the flop if he really wanted to" argument doesn't apply to this situation as much since he could have easily called the turn with Ahigh or whatever hand because of the great odds, and he could as well simply realize OTR that my check is quite weak and that therefore he may find a profitable bluff?

      Hence it makes sense to blockbet to avoid any difficult decisions without knowing anything about his checkback range on the flop, for example (whether there may be smaller PPs/traps or whatever)?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Well, what do you plan to do on the river then? Check/Fold?


      River is difficult if he bets vs our check, but since I wouldn't really like to play a guessing game, I would end up check/folding vs a any normally sized bet.

      I guess that the "he would have bluffed on the flop if he really wanted to" argument doesn't apply to this situation as much since he could have easily called the turn with Ahigh or whatever hand because of the great odds, and he could as well simply realize OTR that my check is quite weak and that therefore he may find a profitable bluff?

      Hence it makes sense to blockbet to avoid any difficult decisions without knowing anything about his checkback range on the flop, for example (whether there may be smaller PPs/traps or whatever)?
      As I said above that I'd Bet the river and most likely even for value. :) If we Checking then we are rather Check/Folding cause I doubt you going to see many bluffs there.
    • Farmarchist
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      Villain seems active. So 4bet/broke? :rolleyes:
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Villain seems active. So 4bet/broke?


      Could be a possibility. Though I personally choose not to do it vs unknowns on whom we don't have active 3B/4B/5B history. Sure, villain has 3Bet a few times during the 215 hands we've got on him, but then again it is a very small sample size + the overall 3Bet stat itself does not tell us that much. What is important here is his go-broke range – and about that we know little.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Villain seems active. So 4bet/broke? :rolleyes:
      Active because of?
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Originally posted by veriz
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Villain seems active. So 4bet/broke? :rolleyes:
      Active because of?
      Plays 26% of hands
      Raise 19% of hands.
      3bet 8% of hands
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Originally posted by veriz
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Villain seems active. So 4bet/broke? :rolleyes:
      Active because of?
      Plays 26% of hands
      Raise 19% of hands.
      3bet 8% of hands
      That's not really that active. :) Kind of default I'd say whatever a standard reg plays.