[NL20-NL50] NL25sh - AQ 4bet pot, CB?

    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Hey veriz,

      Villain was TAG/LAG over 50 hands. 24/20. This is his 2nd resteal. I think this hand is perfect to bluff with so that's what I do.

      He calls... What to think? AQ? AK? QKs? TT? JJ? QQ?

      Can I CB? I also have the backdoor...

      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1990313
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      SB: $11.29
      BB: $25.00
      UTG: $10.35
      MP: $22.30
      CO: $19.72
      Hero (BTN): $25.81

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: Q :heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3

      Flop: ($10.10) 4 :diamond: 4 :spade: T :diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero folds
  • 9 replies
    • yougotfelted51
      yougotfelted51
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      Joined: 04.02.2010 Posts: 1,276
      i would rather defend AQ here vs what could be a possibly wide resteal. don't really like 4bet/folding such a hand in this spot. as played cbet/fold flop seems like the only play even though villain will have lots of pairs in his range
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Farmarchist,

      Preflop: What's the plan here? 4bet/Broke?

      As played
      Postflop: Well, could be everything. Could even be a trap, could be a loose range. Though with some backdoors ourselves and being IP with initiative we can still CB it and reevaluate the further actions.

      Best Regards.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Farmarchist,

      Preflop: What's the plan here? 4bet/Broke?

      As played
      Postflop: Well, could be everything. Could even be a trap, could be a loose range. Though with some backdoors ourselves and being IP with initiative we can still CB it and reevaluate the further actions.

      Best Regards.
      4bet/fold preflop.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Farmarchist,

      Preflop: What's the plan here? 4bet/Broke?

      As played
      Postflop: Well, could be everything. Could even be a trap, could be a loose range. Though with some backdoors ourselves and being IP with initiative we can still CB it and reevaluate the further actions.

      Best Regards.
      4bet/fold preflop.
      You say he is a LAG and has been re-stealing. So why not just Call and keep his range wide? We also have position to play against him, just 4bet/Folding such a strong hand might be kind of too weak.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Because you always advise rather to 4bet/fold if we don't have too much postflop info :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Because you always advise rather to 4bet/fold if we don't have too much postflop info :)
      Never said that. :) It mainly depends how we see the opponent and how loose we see the 3bet range. According to that we are adjusting, either calling or 4betting is better. AQ is just way too strong to turn into pure bluff.
    • timukasr
      timukasr
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      Joined: 26.05.2007 Posts: 1,820
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Hey veriz,

      Villain was TAG/LAG over 50 hands. 24/20. This is his 2nd resteal. I think this hand is perfect to bluff with so that's what I do.

      He calls... What to think? AQ? AK? QKs? TT? JJ? QQ?

      Can I CB? I also have the backdoor...

      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1990313
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      SB: $11.29
      BB: $25.00
      UTG: $10.35
      MP: $22.30
      CO: $19.72
      Hero (BTN): $25.81

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: Q :heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3

      Flop: ($10.10) 4 :diamond: 4 :spade: T :diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero folds
      I'm never taking serious people who cbet 2/5 pot, do you raise this amount with TT, KK, AA as well on that situation? Looks really weak and makes it extra cheap to raise your cbet.

      Nvm, you seem to do it with all 3bet hands :D (saw your other hands).
    • dannywratten
      dannywratten
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      Joined: 11.05.2010 Posts: 1,462
      Originally posted by timukasr
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Hey veriz,

      Villain was TAG/LAG over 50 hands. 24/20. This is his 2nd resteal. I think this hand is perfect to bluff with so that's what I do.

      He calls... What to think? AQ? AK? QKs? TT? JJ? QQ?

      Can I CB? I also have the backdoor...

      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1990313
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      SB: $11.29
      BB: $25.00
      UTG: $10.35
      MP: $22.30
      CO: $19.72
      Hero (BTN): $25.81

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: Q :heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3

      Flop: ($10.10) 4 :diamond: 4 :spade: T :diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero folds
      I'm never taking serious people who cbet 2/5 pot, do you raise this amount with TT, KK, AA as well on that situation? Looks really weak and makes it extra cheap to raise your cbet.

      Nvm, you seem to do it with all 3bet hands :D (saw your other hands).


      I think the sizing is fine for a 4b pot 100bb deep.

      Could probably even cbet a tad smaller on a paired board if the plan is to bet/bet/shove rather than shoving turn.
      May even induce some spazzes.

      What do you think about the sizing veriz?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Sizing for 4bet pot is pretty standard, around 1/2 pot size max.