Flush vs checkraise on river.

    • stttNNN
      stttNNN
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      Can i get away from this hand in some other way? Im playing agaisnt a fish , i was thinking he had the flush as well on the river but if not i have to go for it. Should I just take the call on river insted of going all in? what do guys think is the right way here?

      I am playing on a swedish site with swedish kronor. i would say its like playing on NL16/25$ on pokerstars.

      $0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
      HEM2
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG stttNNN ($207.08) 207bb
      CO Malle28 ($220.45) 220bb
      BTN Smith1337 ($195.79) 196bb
      SB skotte ($208.50) 209bb
      BB Diffus ($319.09) 319bb

      Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) stttNNN is UTG 5:spade: 6:spade:
      stttNNN raises to $3.50, Malle28 calls $3.50, 3 folds

      Flop: 3:spade: 2:spade: Q:heart: ($8.50, 2 players)
      stttNNN bets $7, Malle28 calls $7

      Turn: 9:heart: ($21.94, 2 players)
      stttNNN bets $13, Malle28 calls $13

      River: 8:spade: ($47.29, 2 players)
      stttNNN bets $38, Malle28 raises to $100, stttNNN goes all-in $183.58, Malle28 calls $183.58

      Final Pot: $405.27
      Malle28 shows
      Q:spade: J:spade:
      stttNNN shows
      5:spade: 6:spade:

      Malle28 wins $405.27 (net +$198.19)

      stttNNN lost $207.08
  • 8 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      3betting the river is obviously wrong if you think he has the flush. you beat literally zero flush combinations.

      actually, if you think that he has the flush just bet/fold the river. what worse do you think he is raising there?
    • stttNNN
      stttNNN
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      so u mean it is okey to fold ? i was sure he had a flush as well but if he has it its just a bad beat right? I think he can do that with some strights and sets as well.. maybe just a call there is the right way to go?
    • Tomaloc
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      he won't raise sets and straights because not even a fish raises these hands there when you bet big when the obvious draw completes.

      also, a straight would mean that is a backdoor straight, only realistic possibility would be something like K J (or K J obv)

      [edit: lol KJ, wtf is wrong with me? no wonder i'm having a downer :P make that JT

      also, fold preflop from first pos, your flop sizing is also somewhat weird against a fish]
    • yougotfelted51
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      villain almost never has sets as he would raise either flop or turn on such a wet board. also pretty tough for villain to have straight other than JThh/JTss and i think JThh just calls river.

      would most likely bet/fold river, and definitely wouldnt 3bet river
    • stttNNN
      stttNNN
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      okey thx guys!
    • Saren113
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      Personaly I think it's a fold on the turn as we have only 25% eq vs a queen we don't have implied outs those outs we have are more likely reverse implied. We won't ever get much value once we hit, he will fold or call all worse hands.
    • MrM00dy
      MrM00dy
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      Originally posted by Saren113
      Personaly I think it's a fold on the turn as we have only 25% eq vs a queen we don't have implied outs those outs we have are more likely reverse implied. We won't ever get much value once we hit, he will fold or call all worse hands.
      you realise we're betting not calling?
    • Saren113
      Saren113
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      check fold obv :P