[NL20-NL50] NL25: QQ vs spewy fish turn check/raise

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1996083
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      SB: $25.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 9, AF: 2,1, Hands: 295
      BB: $26.64 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 1,5, FoldToCbetFlop: 30(23), FoldToCbetTurn: 33(6), Hands: 175
      Hero (UTG): $26.90 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 4,8, Hands: 90087
      CO: $48.51 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 3,5, Hands: 427
      BTN: $25.80 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 9, 3B: 15, AF: 0,5, Hands: 35

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Q :heart: Q :diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2.35) 4 :heart: 4 :club: 9 :spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BTN folds, BB calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.35) 5 :spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $3.00, BB raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $24.65, BB calls $11.89 all in

      River: ($54.13) 8 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Villain: Has bluffraised on the flop IP vs a cBet twice. One of these times in a 3B pot with 2 overs vs a cBet where he spiked Top-pair-no-kicker with Qx or Kx (don't remember exactly) on the turn and overplayed it by tripple barreling. So generally seems certainly capable of spew in some spots.

      Given that he may be spewy and may even overplay hands, what do we do on the turn?

      Looks like a guessing game because I can't discount trips and fullhouses. Then again, some weaker overplayed pairs and even bluffs may be in his range as well.

      Personally I maybe still am in favour of a fold without a more definite picture of him being overly spewy and bluffraising a lot. Just seems way safer.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      What is he raising there? Why can't he have trips/FH?

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      What is he raising there? Why can't he have trips/FH?


      He definitely can have monsters in his range.
      The problem is that I've seen him being spewy before (wrote that in the 1st post) and that changes the situation at least a little bit. Because we can assume that there is a possibility that he is either overplaying a hand or even spewing away money with a crazy bluff.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      What is he raising there? Why can't he have trips/FH?


      He definitely can have monsters in his range.
      The problem is that I've seen him being spewy before (wrote that in the 1st post) and that changes the situation at least a little bit. Because we can assume that there is a possibility that he is either overplaying a hand or even spewing away money with a crazy bluff.
      So, you expect him to float in multiway pot just to spew on a paired board where he most likely have rather little fold equity? :P Doubt that it's going to happen very often, we rather have to assume that he is overplaying overpairs here or 9x.