[NL2-NL10] FF NL4-6Max 66 in SB

    • BigAl123456
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (SB): $10.14 (253.5 bb)
      BB: $11.64 (291 bb)
      CO: $5.53 (138.3 bb)
      MP: $6.23 (155.8 bb)
      BTN: $4.04 (101 bb)
      UTG: $6.10 (152.5 bb)-VPIP 27%-PFR 21%-PFAF 5.5-FlCB 60%(5)-WTSD 50%(8)-W$SD 50%(4)-Hands 35

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 6
      UTG raises to $0.12, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, BB calls $0.08

      Flop: ($0.48) 8 6 6 (4 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.23, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.23, BB folds

      Turn: ($0.94) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

      River: ($1.84) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

      $5.84 pot ($0.29 rake)
      Final Board: 8 6 6 Q 2
      Hero showed 6 6 and won $5.55 ($2.75 net)
      UTG mucked A A and lost (-$2.80 net)

      I dont know how to describe the meaning of the stats in terms of if the players a TAGy or LAGy in 6max so until I do Ill just post there stats unless I have less than 20 hands.

      I always like to take thse weird value lines with hands like quads usualy with Overbets.
  • 1 reply
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Considering that UTG bet into 3 people on the flop and then continued on the turn we can assume that his hand is strong (usually a pair/overpair+ maybe Qx).

      Because of that I'd actually prefer to raise the turn so I can get more money (maybe all in) on the river. I'd make it about 1.4 or so.

      If he calls our raise and this blank comes down we can overbet shove and get called by worse, possibly even these overpairs.

      As played I don't mind your overbet but what are we betting against? What do you expect villain to do with boats and overpairs? I would imagine boats would always raise (and thats only 88 and QQ) and then overpairs will just call (missed draws or bluffs, which are rare, would fold).

      If that's the case I would actually try to bet as much as I think that pairs can pay us, mainly KK/AA (since 88/QQ get the money in anyway). Considering we ck/called two streets and looked passive/weak I actually don't mind overbet shoving here. We would shove in ~5.20 which is 2.6x our $2 bet. This means that our shove has to be called 2.6 times less than our $2 bet to bring in the same amount of money. Considering KK and AA are 12 combos that means that he only needs to call 5 of those 12 combos for us to show a better profit.

      I feel that at these limits regular like players will make a mistake and call more often with KK/AA and thus I'd just shove the river (if I went for a donk).

      However, why do we want to donk into him? We can almost always expect villain to value bet the river with all of these hands mentioned above plus sometimes bet his bluffs/missed draws (rarely). And then we can easily ck/shove and maximize value.

      If he checks back it's almost always a hand that wouldn't pay our overbet.