[NL20-NL50] NL50 T8 river

    • double2
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      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $66.07
      SB:
      $55.30
      BB:
      $55.87
      MP2:
      $61.91
      MP3:
      $94.13
      CO (Hero):
      $61.39


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, T.
      MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BU calls $2.00, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($6.75) 7, 6, T (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $4.50, BU calls $4.50, MP2 folds.

      Turn: ($15.75) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $9.50, BU calls $9.50.

      River: ($34.75) K (2 players)


      Final Pot: $34.75.


      BU 700 hands
      18/14
      call open BU 15% (10% overall)
      fold to cbet 40% (39)
      WTSD 29%
      WWSF 37%
      Agg freq river 15% (46)

      UTG donk 129 hands
      55/10

      Nice hand till river? River I don't see a value bet, I like c/c this spot. Thoughts?
  • 6 replies
    • pleno1
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      Hey double2,

      Like the previous hand I wrote about, maybe we could go 5x raise pre flop, but I think 4x is completely fine, if he really is l/calling hands like 52o then 5x pre flop for sure as he is just going to miss the flop completely and check fold really really often.

      Flop is definitely fine. With the bet we don't allow hands such as KQ to continue that we want to protect against and we also get value from worse hands that our hand plays well against.

      River is interesting, if we bet he is going to fold almost everything that we beat, he may however think we've hit a king because people always like to put you on AK. If he is passive he can also have Kxss kind of hands.

      I think we should bet because people always like to hero call. I think betting 1/3 pot would 1) get some hero calls 2) sometimes induce raises from people getting excited trying to represent 10x and get us to fold our weakish hand (smallish bet = weakish hand in their mind)

      $12.50?
    • double2
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      Originally posted by pleno1
      Hey double2,

      Like the previous hand I wrote about, maybe we could go 5x raise pre flop, but I think 4x is completely fine, if he really is l/calling hands like 52o then 5x pre flop for sure as he is just going to miss the flop completely and check fold really really often.

      Flop is definitely fine. With the bet we don't allow hands such as KQ to continue that we want to protect against and we also get value from worse hands that our hand plays well against.

      River is interesting, if we bet he is going to fold almost everything that we beat, he may however think we've hit a king because people always like to put you on AK. If he is passive he can also have Kxss kind of hands.

      I think we should bet because people always like to hero call. I think betting 1/3 pot would 1) get some hero calls 2) sometimes induce raises from people getting excited trying to represent 10x and get us to fold our weakish hand (smallish bet = weakish hand in their mind)

      $12.50?
      Nice, honestly i didn't remeber de 1/3 bet option. Makes sense.

      Cheers
    • pleno1
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      Cool my sizigs are generally.

      1) 3/4
      2) 1/3
      3) overbet

      I think in each river decision thinking about all of them is important.
    • Farmarchist
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      Btn is a nit, from what do we get value ott with this big turnbet? Even draws will fold :(
    • Farmarchist
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      guys? :D
    • pleno1
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      That is a good question.

      I think we should actually make our sizing 6-7 which 1) will induce more calls and 2) can induce some raises to get us to fold voerpairs (best card for it)