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[NL20-NL50] wa/wb oop

    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Hand converted with online hand converter:


      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, K.
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BU folds, Hero raises to $2.40, BB folds, CO calls $1.65.

      Flop: ($5.05) J, 2, J (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25.

      Turn: ($11.55) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $7.25, Hero calls $7.25.

      River: ($26.05) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.80, CO calls $5.80.

      Final Pot: $37.65.
      Results follow:

      CO shows a full-house, jacks full of queens(Q Q).
      Hero shows four of a kind, jacks(J K).

      Hero wins with four of a kind, jacks(J K).

      his stats in 16 hands vpip6 pfr6 af2 wtsd50 w$sd0
      its wa/wb and I think I played well until turn.
      on the river,as strategy say,I should be happy with checking?
      river value bet was bad?
  • 3 replies
    • pleno1
      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      Hey there,

      I'd like to talk about a therom from Zeebo.

      Zeebo's therom is that nobody likes to fold a full house to 1 bet.

      IE, board is J222 we bet turn and he has 33, he will never fold, but may fold the river.

      Pleno1s therom is that nobody folds premium full houses to 1 raise.

      IE board is j2jJ and we raise turn, if we has QQ/KK/AA he is NEVER folding.

      Ok, so to the hand, when we get to the turn he bets 7.50 -> 11 and I think we can agree is super strong. When he bets so big, if we go all in he can think we are overestimating our hand and going all in with something like 99/1010 or even AK

      So as played, I would just shove the turn over his bet and expect to get called as I believe he has a strong range.
    • Farmarchist
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Why wouldn't we play Bet/Bet/Shove by default? Vs floaters we can stil Bet F, X/C T.
    • pleno1
      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      Bet bet shove is a fine line too.

      By checking we allow him to bluff, allow him to think hes betting for value and to allow him to catch up.

      Both lines are completely fine.