[NL20-NL50] triple barrel

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $24.65
      SB:
      $25.35
      BB (Hero):
      $24.65
      MP2:
      $30.21
      MP3:
      $30.73
      CO:
      $11.60


      Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 4.
      MP2 raises to $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($1.5) 7, 7, 5 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, MP2 folds, SB calls $0.90.

      Turn: ($3.3) J (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB calls $1.80.

      River: ($6.9) K (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.70, SB calls $3.70.

      Final Pot: $14.3.
      Results follow:

      SB shows two pairs, jacks and sevens(T J).
      Hero shows a pair of sevens(6 4).

      [COLOR=black]SB wins with two pairs, jacks and sevens(T J).[/COLOR
      his stats in 148 hands vpip28 pfr19 af0,8 wtsd32 w$Sd50 fold to flopCB 33,fold to turn CB 0 I thought he is calling with flush draw or middle pair so I did triple barrel,it was called,was my play okey?
  • 8 replies
    • pleno1
      pleno1
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      Hey,

      Just a little thing, I think $1.05 gets a lot more folds than $0.90, people say ah less than a $1 I see the turn, more than $1. Shit starts getting serious!

      As played we get the absolute dream run out and I think we should keep betting, he likely has a pocket pair, maybe 88/99 or even as strong as 1010, when we bet the turn and the river he is going to fold so often. If the river came a blank I would choose to just give up as I believe he will call pretty often due to the flush draw missing.

      Out of curiosity, are you also leads the flop with 87s?
    • Farmarchist
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      Is it best to donk this flop? Why?

      I would also donk 7x here probably unless the OR cbets more than he should (80%+) so it's actually not a bad idea to donk draws. But the downside of it is that we can't continue ones we get raised :(
    • pleno1
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      We spoke about this in a previous thread just now..

      But yeah, I don't like donking so much.

      Donking 7x just stops him from cbetting his air which should be quite frequent on a low/paired board.
    • Farmarchist
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      Originally posted by pleno1
      We spoke about this in a previous thread just now..

      But yeah, I don't like donking so much.

      Donking 7x just stops him from cbetting his air which should be quite frequent on a low/paired board.
      That is true but it also has disadvantages:
      - We don't know he's going to CB his air 3way.
      - If he checks we give the SB a free turncard whilst he could be drawing.
      - If we check we will scare away all overpairs with a check/raise.

      So that's about 7x.

      Would you x/c our hand OTF or just ch/r ? :)
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      Originally posted by pleno1
      Hey,

      Just a little thing, I think $1.05 gets a lot more folds than $0.90, people say ah less than a $1 I see the turn, more than $1. Shit starts getting serious!

      As played we get the absolute dream run out and I think we should keep betting, he likely has a pocket pair, maybe 88/99 or even as strong as 1010, when we bet the turn and the river he is going to fold so often. If the river came a blank I would choose to just give up as I believe he will call pretty often due to the flush draw missing.

      Out of curiosity, are you also leads the flop with 87s?
      if 87 s?
      to protect from flush draw,I bet like 75% or sometimes 65% ,depends on opponents stats. how is it?
    • pleno1
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      Leading the flop with 87s, I'm trying to find out if your donking range includes mainly draws or has some value hands too.
    • Farmarchist
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      Don't forget my question please? =) =)
    • pleno1
      pleno1
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Originally posted by pleno1
      We spoke about this in a previous thread just now..

      But yeah, I don't like donking so much.

      Donking 7x just stops him from cbetting his air which should be quite frequent on a low/paired board.
      That is true but it also has disadvantages:
      - We don't know he's going to CB his air 3way.
      - If he checks we give the SB a free turncard whilst he could be drawing.
      - If we check we will scare away all overpairs with a check/raise.

      So that's about 7x.

      Would you x/c our hand OTF or just ch/r ? :)
      If SB is drawing then I'm sure he won't fold the turn either and we also induce 2 streets vs him. The counterargument is that we also allow the SB to hit top pair on the turn with KQ that would c/f the flop.

      I would c/r the flop now we have got the cbet out, I think he continues wide here.

      He may get it all in here with overpairs but would perhaps shuit down on some scary turns, so raising now would be preferable.