[NL2-NL10] turned 2 pair vs overbet jam on river..

    • satishvasoya
      satishvasoya
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      Joined: 22.10.2010 Posts: 1,178
      there are anonymous tables so no stats.

      river action here?

      Microgaming - €0.10 NL - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: €7.21
      SB: €2.69
      Hero (BB): €13.32
      UTG: €13.64

      SB posts SB €0.05, Hero posts BB €0.10

      Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has J:heart: A:spade:

      UTG raises to €0.30, fold, SB calls €0.25, Hero calls €0.20

      Flop: (€0.90, 3 players) 4:club: A:diamond: 4:heart:
      SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets €0.30, fold, Hero calls €0.30

      Turn: (€1.50, 2 players) J:club:
      Hero checks, UTG checks

      River: (€1.50, 2 players) T:heart:
      Hero bets €0.80, UTG raises to €13.04 and is all-in, hero.?
  • 6 replies
    • holmeboy
      holmeboy
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      Before commenting can I ask why you called pre?
    • satishvasoya
      satishvasoya
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      i am not that keen on squeezing here OOP against original raiser n i think at unibet there r much better spots to take than these..

      or are you saying its a fold.?
    • holmeboy
      holmeboy
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      Yeah I'd fold it pre - I think a squeeze is better than a call.

      What range do you put UTG on?

      Because when you think about it what worse Ax hands is he opening? So you could end up in a lot of dominated spots like on flops like this where you could end up spewing away a lot of money being 'coolered' by AQ/AK.

      Ofc he does have hands like pp's and KQ/maybe QJ but they will bet once and give up so we won't get much value...

      Plus AJo plays horrible multiway and the shortstacked fish could end up causing problems. And we're oop.

      So imo fold>squeeze>call

      Edit: As played it'd bet the turn. His flop sizing is super weak so rather than just let him take the free card seize the initiative and donk. River is so sick I'd probably b/f but really don't know...
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      Hello,

      I'd definitely go for squeeze here, but if you are uncomfortable on post-flop play, then you should just call it. Never fold it on 4-player table, you are so much ahead of all their ranges.

      On flop I could prefer to lead, UTG might check-back that flop without an ace. And by leading we gain the initiative and we can practically decide the size of the pot.
    • holmeboy
      holmeboy
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      Ah crap didn't realise it was 4 players! Thought it was 6.

      Ignore my comments so lol
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      SB is really short and since he called we can assume he is a fishy player.

      Because of this I don't actually mind 3-betting (as a bluff vs UTG) and as value versus SB.

      UTGs line looks suspicious with the small bet on the flop followed by the check.

      On the river KQ got there and also TT and both of these hands could bet flop small and check turn back.

      Because of that I would actually bet/fold since I can't see many worse hands shoving here (other than a pure bluff).