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[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH ATs 3b pot IP

    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      €0.12/€0.25 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Player3 (€24.54) 98bb
      CO Player4 (€65.75) 263bb
      BTN kymupa (€30.03) 120bb
      SB Player6 (€25.88) 104bb
      BB Player1 (€26.67) 107bb

      Pre-Flop: (€0.37, 5 players) kymupa is BTN A:spade: 10:spade:
      2 folds, kymupa raises to €0.56, 1 fold, Player1 raises to €1.87, kymupa calls €1.31

      Flop: 3:spade: 2:heart: Q:diamond: (€3.86, 2 players)
      Player1 bets €2.44, kymupa calls €2.44

      Turn: A:club: (€8.74, 2 players)
      Player1 bets €5.44, kymupa calls €5.44

      River: 4:diamond: (€19.62, 2 players)
      Player1 bets €16.92, kymupa folds

      Final Pot: €19.62

      Player1 wins €52.49 (net +€25.82)

      kymupa lost €9.75


      Hello.

      Not really sure about this hand.

      Villian is 19/15 3b 8% (13% at BB vs steal), cb 73% in 3b pot, 1.5k hands.
      Note: 3b A5o bvb check back on AKx

      Preflop I think I can call, since I have a goodish hand, he doesn't cb a lot, so I can pick up some of the pots on the flop, and also I have position.

      On this flop I do expect him to barrel and with backdoor FD, and overcard I think calling is ok.

      On the turn I am not really sure what to do. I did remember this hand where you said that people are generally not bluffing a lot on A high boards and my hand is just a bluff catcher. Also he has a considerably low % of betting turn (44% overall). So I think it's better to fold.
      Question: If the turn was lets say J :spade: what do we do if he bets? I think calling is better since I don't expect him to be double barreling a lot and I doubt I have much FE.

      On ther river I think it is an easy fold. I don't think he is going to make any sick bluff here.
  • 3 replies
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Black
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,335
      Originally posted by kymupa

      cb 73% in 3b pot, 1.5k hands.

      he doesn't cb a lot
      73% is low cbet frequency? :)


      How does he react to 4bets? If he has a wide resteal range, but tends to fold to 4bets, I'd prefer that, avoiding marginal situations.

      Postflop floating is a decent strategy against him, as he tends to give up on the turn a lot.
      On the turn we got a bluffcatcher, and he got the perfect card to bluff, so I'd call as well. Also agree with river fold.
    • pleno1
      pleno1
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      Hey,

      I would 4b/fold A10o here.

      As played, I think vs these nitty kind guys that play weak raising flop is fine, we have back door spades and we can get him to fold a huge range on the flop that may c/call turn/river. JJ kind of hands.

      As played its pretty gross, we're beat by a narrow range and he got the perfect card to barrel, I think I just call and make a note, but if we do think he is a nit/passive then fold is going to be ok.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      I think ATs is just a bit too bad to call preflop. Because of his weak sizing I'd 4bet/fold personally. To call the 3bet and play +EV you have to be really good so I wouldn't really advise it.