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[NL2-NL10] Nl4 Kk

    • bogstratos
      bogstratos
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.05.2012 Posts: 161
      Prima, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      Hero (CO): $5.75 (143.8 bb)
      BTN: $6.88 (172 bb)
      SB: $4.13 (103.3 bb) 64/20/20/1.5 VPIP/PFR/3BET/AGG 62 hands
      BB: $5.77 (144.3 bb)
      MP: $3.90 (97.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
      MP raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.36, BTN folds, SB calls $0.34, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.88) 8 7 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.64, SB calls $0.64

      Turn: ($2.16) J (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB raises to $3.13 and is all-in, Hero ???

      Results:
      $4.56 pot ($0.10 rake)
      Final Board: 8 7 8 J
      Hero mucked K K and lost (-$2.20 net)
      SB mucked and won $4.46 ($2.26 net)


      Preflop: I 3bet MP who's a reg, get called by SB fish.
      Flop: The board is paired but there are quite a few draws out there, so he'll easily call me with worse. Could I bet a bit bigger than this? (like 0,70-75)
      Turn: J isn't the best card for me as 9T gets there, but I'm sure that I still have a value bet here. I think that 1,20 is enough, if he calls he'll have less than half pot stack otr, but still, should I bet a little bit bigger? When I get raised I think he's only doing that with hands that beat us (T9,8x,JJ) given his AF, even tho he might have raised some 8x hands OTF.
  • 5 replies
    • cheekopeh
      cheekopeh
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.09.2010 Posts: 461
      Hi,

      Personally I would 3bet bigger, at least 3.5x and even 4x.

      Other than that, I can't really think what Sb call your 3-bet with? I think JJ/QQ is most likely what he might have that doesn't wanna 4bet shove or fold to your 3bet PF. He must be really bad to call your 3bet w T9/8x/77s. But yep, anything is possible in the micros. But I think those hands are unlikely though.

      But as played, I would also fold as QQs would most likely have raised you on the drawy Flop.

      Just my noob thoughts. Interested to see what the coach has to say!
    • bogstratos
      bogstratos
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.05.2012 Posts: 161
      Personally I would 3bet bigger, at least 3.5x and even 4x.
      I just came back into the game this month after a break, and I might have one of those moments when you feel like you know 1+1=3 for sure, while it's actually 2. Is it standard to 3bet 3x or 4x? WTF what's wrong with my head? :f_o:


      He must be really bad to call your 3bet w T9/8x/77s. But yep, anything is possible in the micros. But I think those hands are unlikely though.
      62 hands isn't a big sample at all, but he is playing 64/20, I expect him to call 3bets quite wide since he's a fish.
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,350
      I'd make it 3x pre-flop, it's standard. Especially when you have position.
    • bogstratos
      bogstratos
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.05.2012 Posts: 161
      Thanks CPallo, I really tought my mind managed to fk up 3bet sizings rofl :f_eek: .
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      3-bet size is fine since Mp is a reg and we are IP. 3x is more than enough since we should also have a 3-bet bluff range.

      The opponent that called is a huge fish so we can definitely bet bigger on this flop (close to pot).

      This is a spot where we can bet/fold IF we think the fish is really passive and can't shove worse. I personally feel that he could shove some worse hands, especially because our bet size is on the lower end. I can see him shoving Jx (with draw), and maybe QQ that he cold calls along with 99/TT. Of course he would have some 77,88 or 8x in his range as well.