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[NL20-NL50] [NL20-SH] AQo

    • gxtwo
      Joined: 15.12.2010 Posts: 1,268
      Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BTN: $20 (100 bb)
      SB: $34.87 (174.3 bb)
      BB: $22.96 (114.8 bb)
      UTG: $37.89 (189.5 bb)
      MP: $18.45 (92.2 bb)
      Hero (CO): $20 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
      UTG raises to $0.80, MP folds, Hero calls $0.80, 3 folds

      Flop: ($1.90) 2 Q 5 (2 players)
      UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

      Turn: ($4.30) Q (2 players)
      UTG bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

      River: ($10.70) 8 (2 players)
      UTG bets $7.40, Hero raises to $14.80 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.40

      villain is 24/16 wtsd:44 w$sd: 45

      Standard play here? only thing that makes me wonder is his betsizing, seems pretty big/ value.

      but such a narrow range that beats us, 22, 55, 88. dont think he gets to the river with 88, and he raised 4x pre so dont think 2's and 5s are in his range that often

      he raised 4x pre so think he may be overplaying JJ+, or its a split with AQ

      EDIT: reason for shipping river is to get called by weaker Qx and perhaps his overplayed JJ+
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      You must look at starting positions. If this were BvB this would be a clear shove (shoving KQ as well).

      But you need to remember he doesn't have too many worse QX which can call, and you are looking at 6 combos of boats too.

      You lose to 6 boat combos
      You chop with 3 AQ
      You beat 4 KQ, 1 QJs and 1 QTs.

      I think it should be quite clear that you don't really have a value shove here. Getting a call from KK/AA is super optimistic. He needs to be really bad to pay you off with those hands.
    • gxtwo
      Joined: 15.12.2010 Posts: 1,268
      not shoving river makes sesne now :f_biggrin:

      Do we just call it down and if he has the boat nh him. Or can we find a fold but would need reads on villian such as bet sizing
    • EmanuelC16
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      I don't think you should fold. You get the odds to use your hand as a 'premium bluffcatcher' if you allow the phrase. :)

      He is definitely value betting worse often and might bluff sometimes, the only problem is getting called by worse when you shove.

      LE: That said, his WTSD is high so you might consider it. It depends a lot on his opening range from preflop and his barreling frequencies. Given how small the raise would be I doubt someone with high WTSD is in a hurry to fold KK or even TT+ type hand here. Won't call 100% of those but will call more than your average opponent obviously...