[NL2-NL10] NL 4 Steal attempt with no exit strategy

    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      This hand is frankly a bit embarassing
      No significant stats, and I pushed the steal button just because I usually get away with it for the first few orbits.

      I CBet, because I figured that the call from BB indicated medium strength hands, likely mid PP and other stuff. I actually figured on a fold here.

      When the 2nd club hits on the turn, I again tried to take it down, but now I have a flush draw too, and the min raise I have to call, because I nearly have proper odds to call for my FD.

      Should I have shoved this?

      When the club hits, I shoved thinking that unless he has Qx he would fold.

      I really think I should have bailed somewhere along the way, but each step just seemed too enticing


      Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

      BTN: $4 (100 bb)
      MP: $5.51 (137.8 bb)
      Hero (SB): $4 (100 bb)
      CO: $4.85 (121.2 bb)
      BB: $3.09 (77.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 4
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BB calls $0.08

      Flop: ($0.24) 7 K Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

      Turn: ($0.56) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.40

      River: ($2.16) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.06, BB calls $2.01 and is all-in

      Results:
      $6.18 pot ($0.30 rake)
      Final Board: 7 K Q 9 A
      Hero showed 6 4 and won $5.88 ($2.79 net)
      BB showed 9 K and lost (-$3.09 net)
  • 4 replies
    • Spungeh
      Spungeh
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      When the club hits, I shoved thinking that unless he has Qx he would fold.

      Isnt true.


      Just fold pre :f_cool:

      I dont think you can really call the turn raise either, he hasnt shown aggression til then, so he has picked up a FD, made hand, you are behind here.. Normally you hit your flush and its not even good anyway due to the turn raise..

      card selection and fold pre :) And you dont even need this spot :)
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by Spungeh
      Just fold pre :f_cool:
      Yeah, I get that.
      I get so used to successful steals...
    • Spungeh
      Spungeh
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      steal, when it doesnt work. Give up :D
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Hello,

      I think we should fold this hand preflop without any further information.
      Although our opponent is unknown we could use some tells to figure out what to do - so he has 70bb so he is less likely to be a good player and more likely to be a random fish, and we don't want to raise 64s vs a fish.

      On the flop I'd just check/fold.
      KQ7tt hits his calling range quite good and he is probably not going to fold on one bet.
      Also keep in mind that you don't need to fight for every pot postflop.

      Turn card improves our equity but doesn't really improve our FE, since almost all the hands he called the flop with now improved.
      I prefer checking here and deciding whether to call or not by the size of his bet and the pot odds.
      Against the minraise I think calling is close because we have such a low FD and I would prefer to play safer and just fold it.

      On the river I don't mind donking. He isn't likely to fold any two pair/straight/set so I would rather just bet here myself.

      Do you guys have anything to add/ask?

      Best,
      Plamen