[NL2-NL10] NL 10 Q9s

    • 0744379
      0744379
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.06.2011 Posts: 435
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      Hero (CO): $10.69 (106.9 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      MP: $10.49 (104.9 bb)
      BB: $13.19 (131.9 bb)
      SB: $11.24 (112.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q 9
      MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds, MP calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.35) A Q 4 (3 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $0.86, 2 folds

      Results:
      $1.35 pot ($0.06 rake)
      Final Board: A Q 4
      Hero mucked Q 9 and won $1.29 ($0.89 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
      MP mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)


      Btn was a tight reg. MP was fishy calling station. I decided to isolate the fish pre-flop. Btn called and I put a lot of PPs in his range. MP had gone to showdown with Ax alot in previous hands.

      I dont know if I should cbet into two players with a medium strength hand on a tricky board. I thought the the Btn would fold quite often but MP would continue with all Ax hands so I could give up on turn.
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      The open, 5 handed, is more than fine.

      MP will have a fair share of Ax hands and BTN will too. We also can't get much value from many Qx hands so we would be mostly betting to take down the pot. Or do you think you can valuebet?
    • 0744379
      0744379
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.06.2011 Posts: 435
      No I was betting to take down the flop. I dont see many hands we get value from.
      Cheers
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      i would check here. not much value, and people do connect with double broadway boards fairly often. betting is clearly the easy way out but may not be the highest EV play.

      If you had something like KQ in a HU pot against someone who doesn't c/r so much, then i could see an argument for betting. With 2nd pair top kicker, there are just more worse hands you can get value from like QJ QT and straight draws + flush draws. With Q9 you are only getting value from flush draws and straight draws (and would you even call river if board bricks and they lead?)
    • 0744379
      0744379
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.06.2011 Posts: 435
      I don't think I would ever call a river lead.

      My thought process POST FLOP was to isolate the fish in MP while also folding out the tighter player. I could check back the turn if unimproved and re evaluate the river.

      I'm not sure if this is correct or is it a bit stupid?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by 0744379
      No I was betting to take down the flop. I dont see many hands we get value from.
      Cheers
      So we essentially turned our hand into a bluff (where nothing better folds anyway) and thus I rather check back as mbnl pointed out.