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[NL20-NL50] Qq

    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Hand converted with online hand converter:


      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.30, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $26.25, MP3 calls $19.25.

      Flop: ($52.85) J, 5, 4 (2 players)

      Turn: ($52.85) 2 (2 players)

      River: ($52.85) 5 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $52.85.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, queens and fives(Q Q).
      MP3 shows two pairs, kings and fives(K K).

      MP3 wins with two pairs, kings and fives(K K). his stats in 133 hands  vpip23 pfr17 af6,3 wtsd30 w$sd50 3BET9,34BET50 from MP,PFR30 MP open raise 32   
      well,I will not hesitate to go all in with KK anymore,but how about QQ?
      is it overplayed?
  • 1 reply
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Value of QQ:
      1) He 4bet bluffs a lot so when we jam and he folds, we win about 20-30BB
      2) He 4bets and stacks off with a wide range, including JJ, maybe TT and AQ. We beat all those hands.
      3) He calls with many worse hands like AJ/KQ/AQ/77-JJ

      If your opponent doesn't do one of the following things, then you should really consider not 3-betting preflop. And if you are unsure about his 4bet tendencies and he does open a fairly tight range from MP, you should strongly consider flat calling QQ here.

      And if your opponent doesn't stack off JJ or 4bet bluff vs you, then it's probably your fault for not 3bet bluffing enough.

      As a general rule of thumb, don't 3bet something for value if you are unsure whether you should 5bet or fold to a 4bet. This applies to aggressive players.

      Vs more passive players usually their 4betting range is really narrow and you can 3bet many hands for thin value such as TT/AQ and expect to be crushed by their tight 4betting range, so you can just 3bet and fold to a 4B.