[NL2-NL10] bu KTh, overall

    • Imimba1
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      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2014036
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      SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 22, 3B: 10, AF: 2,5, Hands: 51
      BB: $7.40 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1,3, Hands: 15
      UTG: $13.74 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 9, AF: 10,0, Hands: 91
      CO: $7.75 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 16
      Hero (BTN): $10.40 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 58054

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K :heart: T :heart:
      1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

      Flop: ($0.35) J :heart: 8 :heart: 6 :spade: (3 players)
      BB bets $0.20, CO folds, Hero calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.75) 6 :heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks Too many hands fold if I bet here, should bet on the river.

      River: ($0.75) J :spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks Hard to bet for value.
  • 9 replies
    • kymupa
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      Hello,

      Preflop I'd isolate in this spot.

      Calling the flop with FD is fine.

      I don't really like your check on the turn.
      We have a very strong hand and we want to build the pot so I would definetely bet here.

      I would expect him to bet any 6x/Jx on the river, so I'd bet like $0.35 on the river.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Imimba1
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    • Imimba1
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      true, true
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      Hello,

      Preflop I'd isolate in this spot.

      Calling the flop with FD is fine.

      I don't really like your check on the turn.
      We have a very strong hand and we want to build the pot so I would definetely bet here.


      I would expect him to bet any 6x/Jx on the river, so I'd bet like $0.35 on the river.

      Best,
      Plamen
      My line of thought was on the turn: if I bet right now, he's going to fold a huge part of his range. It's easier to bet for value on the river (thinly), because he closes the action with a call, and could call with a wider range.
      Just because we have a monster hand, it doesnt mean we can bet for value. <--> but we have to take the risk, and build a pig pot?
    • kymupa
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      Well...

      I think we have to bet the turn always because:
      - we have a monster and we want to build the pot
      - the hands that are going to fold here are going to fold the river most of the time
      - we miss value from hands that are going to call us on two streets, rather than one
      - by checking here we are risking to see a bad card on the river
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      Well...

      I think we have to bet the turn always because:
      - we have a monster and we want to build the pot
      - the hands that are going to fold here are going to fold the river most of the time
      - we miss value from hands that are going to call us on two streets, rather than one
      - by checking here we are risking to see a bad card on the river
      In this situation, a bad card is a
      1) bad card for US : J, we can hardly bet again on the river for value
      2) bad for our opponent: many overcards, 4th :heart: ?

      Just curious, maybe I dont see something right here.
    • kymupa
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      Yes, you are right.

      The J would be a bad card, and so as the 4h.
      We will have hard time value betting if the J hits, or the 4h, since:
      - our hand would have lost of its relative strength
      - our opponent would be more inclined to fold his weaker hands.
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      Well...

      I think we have to bet the turn always because:
      - we have a monster and we want to build the pot
      - the hands that are going to fold here are going to fold the river most of the time
      - we miss value from hands that are going to call us on two streets, rather than one
      - by checking here we are risking to see a bad card on the river
      +1