[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL50 99 oop

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Gold
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BTN: $51.08 (102.2 bb)
      SB: $125.76 (251.5 bb)
      BB: $15.94 (31.9 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $143.65 (287.3 bb)
      MP: $13.17 (26.3 bb)
      CO: $52.25 (104.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 9
      Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

      Flop: ($3.75) 5 J 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

      Turn: ($8.75) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

      River: ($20.75) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $13.50, Hero folds


      Anon table.

      BTN played 18/12 after 15 hands.

      Turn? I felt ch/fold would maybe too weak, he could float me f.e. with T9/QT/PPs this way, so I chose bet/fold turn, ch/fold river. I didnt want to ch/call turn, cause I would only put myself into a guessing spot on the river.
      His river bet is quite a narrow range though, basically KJ/KQ/AK/JJ/88/55. Anything weaker would checkbehind I guess, but on the other hand after calling flop/turn, he doesnt really have a bluffrange...
  • 4 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      If u bet 99 here u are betting ur entire range here which is suboptimal and imbalanced.

      99 is too weak to value bet, too weak to cc and too strong to bluff. Thus cf is the best play since we beat 8x
    • getdotacom
      getdotacom
      Black
      Joined: 06.04.2008 Posts: 607
      U can easily c/c turn and it's pretty clear c/f on the river. It's unlikely he will try to bluff that much after we c/c turn.

      As played : He can have some bluffs on the river, like T9s,QTs... but still we can't call.
      Since u turned this into a bluff on the turn, u could consider betting river as well. 18/12 looks like a weaker player and he might fold almost all his range (Jx). ofc checking is perfectly fine as well.
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Gold
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Originally posted by mbml
      99 is too weak to value bet, too weak to cc and too strong to bluff.
      That's clear. But if we take bluffing, he could sometimes fold TT, maybe even Jx on the turn? But yeah, Jx would probably only fold to a 3rd barrel, which is not a good move to make with a showdown-value hand that could improve only with 2 outs...
      Plus what about his floats? He could float me here with straightdraws, could even bet 8x on the turn (which is bad, but we cant assume he plays optimally), and that way I fold the best hand...
      I'm trying not to be too paranoid about being bluffed though... :)
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      U would probably fold tt but he has way more jx than tt.
      I think betting is out of the question if u want to have any sort of balance.

      There arw many worse hands to turn into a bluff so use them and not 99.

      I think cf > cc > bet with 99. For cc u need the read that he doesnt vbet thinly or turns 8x into a bluff. The turn king should stop him from betting jx a lot of the time so i think u are up against floats a fair bit.

      You dont punish floats by betting with SD value. You do so by bluffcatching.