[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH - T9s: TP wet flop

    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      CO: 17/15/3.8
      21% steal BU
      73% fold vs 3bet
      88% cbet flop
      53% fold cbet vs raise flop
      41% cbet turn
      44% cbet river
      44% wwsf
      27% wtsd
      11k hands

      BU aggro reg
      SB weak passive reg


      Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
      UTG: $5.48 (21.9 bb)
      MP: $27.95 (111.8 bb)
      CO: $28.64 (114.6 bb)
      BTN: $25 (100 bb)
      SB: $20 (80 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:club: 9:club:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 7:diamond: 9:heart: 5:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.29, Hero

      Flat fold or 3bet pré-flop?
      Plan for the flop..
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      I 3bet in sb. In bb i could go either way.

      Flop is a cc and theres no other option. Cant raise for value and cant raise as a bluff
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
      UTG: $5.48 (21.9 bb)
      MP: $27.95 (111.8 bb)
      CO: $28.64 (114.6 bb)
      BTN: $25 (100 bb)
      SB: $20 (80 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:club: 9:club:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 7:diamond: 9:heart: 5:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.29, Hero calls $1.29

      Turn: ($4.18) 3:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $2.57, Hero folds


      So you think its standard playing this way?
      I have a bit of a stress in draw heavy boards when i have an ok hand because if a call i cant have a strong hand like a set or two pair, because i would raise them. So i think my range looks capped and very easy to play against. So sometimes i feel like raising its a better option comparing to call flop and call turn because its for the same price and my hand wont look so capped, and i can make better hands to fold.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      Turn: Fold vs someone who doesn't barrel too much (sub 40% Turn Cbet) and call against someone who barrels a decent amount (>45% Turn Cbet).

      "My range looks capped and easy to play against"

      Your solution to someone playing loosely and aggressively against you is to merely call down light. Yes, sometimes board will run out ugly in many various ways. But if you know his ranges well for betting, and you also know how your hand fares against his range, then you can make mathematically-accurate decisions.

      But sure, a lot of the time, we don't have perfect information and a lot of guessing has to be done. That's the beauty of poker, isn't it?

      Imagine your alternative line of c/r with T9 on 795hh. Now the Turn is 3h. What do you do now? I think being in this situation is far worse than being in the situation where you c/c Flop anyway.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      So for example against a player that cbets 80% F, 65% T, 60% R you call down here unless the board gets really ugly?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      I wouldn't necessarily calldown, and it's really situational. But yes, I could possibly call down. I cannot just give u a fixed answer without other information on gameflow, bet sizing, and starting positions.