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[NL2-NL10] FF NL4-6Max QQ in CO.

    • BigAl123456
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $26.66 (666.5 bb)
      BB: $7.53 (188.3 bb)-VPIP 23%-PFR 18%-PFAF 1.5-3Bet 4.8%(83)-FlCBet 63%(19-Hands 298
      SB: $9.39 (234.8 bb)-VPIP 19%-PFR 14%-PFAF 0.4-FT3Bet 33%(6)-FTFlCB 57%(7)-Hands 147
      UTG: $6.87 (171.8 bb)
      BTN: $4.18 (104.5 bb)
      MP: $3.84 (96 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, BTN folds, SB calls $0.14, BB raises to $0.56, Hero calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.68) 8 9 T (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

      Turn: ($4.08) J (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.64, SB calls $2.64, BB calls $2.64

      River: ($12.00) 8 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7.60, SB calls $5.39 and is all-in, BB folds

      $22.78 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: 8 9 T J 8
      Hero showed Q Q and won $21.78 ($12.39 net)
      BB mucked and lost (-$4 net)
      SB mucked 7 7 and lost (-$9.39 net)

      I dont know how to describe the meaning of the stats in terms of if the players a TAGy or LAGy in 6max so until I do Ill just post there stats unless I have less than 20 hands.

      I can call the 3Bet PF because I am getting Call15 required for 3Bet pots and also player behind, On the Flop I think calling is correct with OP and GS, On the Turn I hit Gin card, I am really not sure about my River bet because there is a posible boat now and 9s-Js make up alot of hands that they can have and I'm not sure if As and Ks will call AI good for me I beat all 2 pairs and am choping with QJ and loseing to KQ I think it is thin.
  • 4 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Call 15 rule is for pure set mining. You have QQ, which can beat so many other hands. You have more than enough showdown value even without hitting sets.

      So call 15 rule is not applicable to QQ.

      Flop: Wow, such an ugly flop. BB bets which may mean he's ultra strong. If he was decent, he would recognize the fact that the board is very terrible for bluff cbetting so his cbet range should be way stronger than usual. And you are behind AA/KK, and JJ has decent equity vs you (but fortunately you block some of his straight outs with your 2 Qs).

      Calling is certainly standard, but I'm not thrilled about it

      Turn and River: You have a straight now so bet and shove

      I think we should consider folding the turn (on blank cards) because based on the dynamic I think it is really likely that BB is super strong if he shows multiple streets of aggression, who ever bluffs 3way when both players call? Somemore his preflop range seems pretty strong in the first place.

      I think BB probably misplayed his hand and called turn with KK/AA. And SB is pretty bad :) Flop is a really easy fold for him with idiot end of straight.
    • BigAl123456
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      So you dont think there is any question on River play?
    • Optroot
      Joined: 11.05.2008 Posts: 250
      I doubt you're getting c/r c/c'ed here if villains have a boat, they probably just jam. Either way, I'd be really surprised if you get called by worse here there is 77/78 and that's really it, and most of the time they aren't calling OTF IMO.

      So when you bet OTR you are betting and are chopping or losing too often. So I'm checking it back. I think most sane opponents will dump the idiot end str here. WTSD stat would help, but I think I'm stil checking it back.
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      hmm yeah it's true that it seems kind of hard to get value when board pairs + flush hits. And anyone who isn't bad probably wouldn't c/c river with worse than 7X.

      So yeah, check back seems good. I was under the impression that they were all fishy players so I would shove vs those guys (didn't really look at their stats) but against your opponents as described, I think check is good